Russia Is Doing It – Russia Is Actually Abandoning The Dollar

I wanted to give Alpha a viewpoint from someone who would have a great many contacts in Ukraine. The religion is inconsequential to the viewpoint. The bloggers assessment seemed to be correct, since I didn't find anything in it that would have gone against what I already knew about Ukraine other than him mentioning fighting in the north. I never read that before. If correct, that means there is sporadic fighting going on all over Ukraine.

 

Just as well its not correct then isn't it ?

 

Every person has an opinion, and/or something they want to convey...so everyone spins. When I read an Israeli paper, I assume it will lean a certain way. When I read a Turkish one I assume the same thing. That's to be expected. What annoys me with the western press, and so much so that I won't even read them, is that they all leave out the same things and put in the same things. In other words they all follow the Washington line to a 'T'. You read one, you read them all.

A top German editor said that some of the stories he gave in under his name were written by the CIA, and that they control everything. What I also read, and I don't know if it's true, is that as the main stream media loses money, the CIA is covering more of their costs.

 

OK.....a few things.

As part of the DEAL between Russia and the United States.....and it was RUSSIA....that BEGGED THE UNITED STATES for this deal and I am NOT overstanting this with the word...BEGGED...as at the time RUSSIA WAS DESPERATE.....

.......this deal of course happened when Russia contacted the U.S. State Department and after that talks occured at the HIGHEST LEVEL.....as Russia came to us and said.....LOOK.....Georgia and the Ukraine offered to sell their old Soviet Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Weapons to us but we simply do not have the money to buy them.....and unless you....the United States buys them from Georgia and the Ukraine....they both said they would sell these weapons to the Highest Bidder!

We had already been approached by both Georgia and the Ukraine as well as a few other former Soviet Satellite States who really had no love for Russia and the part Russian's played as the Dominant Nationality in the Old Soviet Union.....and they said to us.....LOOK.....out of cortousy we are offering to allow Russia to purchase back all our old Soviet Weapons of Mass destruction by you know and we know the Russian's don't have the money so we want to sell them to you....and don't worry we will never sell them to a Terrorist Group but as the U.S. Knows we have Nukes and Chemical and Biological Weapons that if not maintenenced will EVENTUALLY LEEK!!!

Russia attempted to BROKER THE DEAL...and Russia came to us with Cost Figures almost 3 TIMES THE COSTS THAT GEORGIA AND THE UKRAINE ASKED US FOR!!!

So we told Russia to CUT THE CRAP and we agreed to purchase and destroy all these weapons not only in these former Soviet Satellite States but as well we made a deal to destroy them in Russia as well.

IN RETURN FOR US TO DO THIS.....Russia agreed to NEVER threaten it's neighbors offensively or annex them.

WE STILL HAVE U.S. MILITARY NUCLEAR AND BIOLOGICAL DESTRUCTION TEAMS IN RUSSIA WORKING RIGHT NOW!!!!

This Senator Lugger-Nun Program has been running since the early 1990's and is still on going to this day.

RUSSIA BROKE THE AGREEMENT!!!

Remeber both the Ukraine and Georgia could have NUKED MOSCOW if we had not destroyed and removed those old Soviet Weapons.

Under the deal Russia agreed not to interfere with these Nations rights to opperate as an independent Nation and not interfere with them possibly joining NATO.

AGAIN RUSSIA BROKE THE DEAL!!!

The United States and I PERSONALLY have a vested interest in making certain Russia has a stable economy as that will ensure the continuance of Democracy.

But Putin is giving us no choice in what is currently happening.

Russia is SCREWED!!!

At least as long as Putin runs it.

AboveAlpha

So

 

Why would he lie though? He might be mistaken, but if I come across it again then I'll know it's true.

 

There is a difference.....and just to let you know any Media Corp. owned by it's own Government should be held suspect.

LOOK....Jeannette....I might be retiring but I KNOW PUTIN!!!

I know how he thinks and I know what he is attempting to do and there is absolutely NO UPSIDE for the Russian People.

The ONLY upside is for Putin....but eventually just like all Soviet Leaders in the past and this is the first Russian Leader who is acting like a Soviet Dictator....just like all of them he will either DIE in office after acting as a Dictator for Life and at that point massive Political Change would occur......OR....

....OR.....the young people living in Russia....AND BOY ARE THEY P!$$ED.....will find a way to get rid of him.

I have studied Putin and I can tell you his actions are not like those in the past as they are DESPERATE!!!

You do NOT break a deal with the United States.....PERIOD....especially if you want your Economy to grow.

Now....think for a moment.....what happens to Nations who have leaders who break deals with the United States?

Uhhh....let's look at the economies of...North Korea.....Iran.....Yemen.....Syria.....etc.....NOT a rosey picture is it?

The sad thing is all Putin has to do to stop this IMPENDING TRAIN WRECK.....is to simply remove Russian Spetsnaz from the Ukraine.....and pull their troops back from the boarder.....but I know Putin and he likes to show how...MANLY he is and any guy that is so insecure with his Manhood that he scheduals PUBLIC TV COVERED SHOWS OF HIM BEATING UP YOUNGER, STRONGER AND MORE MUSCULAR MARTIAL ARTS SPARING PARTNERS.....is a guy who not only has a TINY PENIS...but is dangerous for the Russian People.

AboveAlpha.....put Putin in a ring with ME....and I would do to him what he does to those poor young kids...one he broke the kids wrist just to look good.

 

First of all Russia is not screwed, we're screwed when we started the sanctions because Russia went off the petrodollar. It was something the world was hoping for, they just needed Russia's leadership. Anyway here's something from the former economic advisor to Pres. Reagan:


Paul Craig Roberts

The aggressive and mindless stance that Washington’s warmongers have taken toward Russia and China have shattered the accomplishment of Reagan and Gorbachev.

Reagan and Gorbachev ended the cold war and removed the threat of nuclear armageddon. Now the neocons, the US budget-dependent (taxpayer dependent) US military/security complex, and the US politicians dependent on campaign funds from the military/security complex have resurrected the nuclear threat.

The corrupt and duplicitous Clinton regime broke the agreement that the George H.W. Bush administration gave Moscow in 1990. In exchange for Moscow permitting a reunified Germany to be a NATO member, Washington agreed that there would be no expansion of NATO to the east. Gorbachev, US Secretary of State James Baker, US ambassador to Moscow Jack Matlock, and declassified documents all testify to the fact that Moscow was assured that there would be no expansion of NATO into Eastern Europe.

In 1999 President Bill Clinton made a liar of the administration of President George H.W. Bush. The corrupt Clinton brought Poland, Hungary, and the newly formed Czech Republic into NATO.

President George W. Bush also made a liar out of his father, George H.W. Bush, and his father’s trusted Secretary of State, James Baker. “Dubya,” as the fool and drunkard is known, brought Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovenia, Slovakia, Bulgaria, and Romania into NATO in 2004. The corrupt and hopeless Obama regime added Albania and Croatia in 2009.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/10/06/washington-destroying-world-paul-craig-roberts/

 

It does not matter in the least to the United States.

Remeber the U.S. will become COMPLETELY ENERGY SELF SUFICIENT by 2025 and it looks like it could be as soon as 2023.

Russia right now is FREAKING OUT....and Putin is currently under enormous pressure by his supporters who run the Russian State Owned Oil Conglomerates as it might have the Title....State Owned but in reality it is owned and run by Former Soviet Military and KGB Leadership who are really P!$$ED OFF that Oil Prices are dropping like a ROCK because the United States in response to the Russian Annexation of Crimea has ramped up Oil Production is a BIG way.

Oil went from $128 a Barrel and it is below $76 right now.

These super low costs will only go lower and as it is now at $76 a Barrel and falling...it makes Siberian Oil Extraction and Refining TOO EXPENSIVE because no Siberian Infrastructure exists.

And...WHY does no Siberian Infrastructure exist?

Because PUTIN cancelled the joint Russian/American Siberian Infrastructure and Oil Exploitation Program 12 years ago...and there is LESS Siberian Oil coming out of Siberia NOW then there was 12 years ago.

Putin convinced the Russian People that Russia could do it on her own.

Now Putin is courting China but even if development begins...as massive amounts of U.S. Shale Oil become available and exported to China...at a cost 1/2 of that of Siberian Oil.....China will drop out of the project.

This didn't have to happen......PUTIN made it happen and the Russian people will now pay for his idiocy.

AboveAlpha

 

You seem prepared to believe the most improbable nonsense. There most certainly is not conflict all over the Ukraine. On the contrary Russian activities have done a very great deal to increase nationalism and unite the country as the recent election result bears witness

 

I will tell you EXACTLY why Putin decided to annex the Crimea.

The Ukraine has a MASSIVE and complex Natural Gas Pipeline System which Russia uses to pump and supply Western Europe with Russian Natural Gas.

It was discovered by the Ukrainian's using American Gas Detection Tech. that the Crimea help up to 1000 TIMES more Natural Gas that originally estimated.

Putin understood that the Ukraine could using Highly Advanced, Efficient and FAST American Natural Gas Drilling Companies....QUICKLY AND EASILY tap these Gas reserves in the Crimea....undercut Russian Natural Gas Prices and then the Ukrainian's could USE THEIR OWN PIPELINE to suply Western Europe with Ukrainian Natural Gas thus replacing Russia as Europes #1 Supplier.

Putin decided to send in Russian Spetsnaz in Uniforms without signia as they pretended to be Russian Seperatist.

Spetsnaz trained and supported actual seperatists and the Crimea was annexed.

Putin's latest moves have been an attemt to do the same thing along the Black Sea Coastline to provide a land connection from Russia to the Crimea.

THAT...is what it is all about.

AboveAlpha

 

One other thing.....Putin kees going on about how NATO is surrounding Russia.

Remeber it is not like the United States is holding a gun to the heads of Nations like Georgia, Ukraine...etc....these Nations are LINED UP....BEGGING TO BE ALLOWED TO JOIN NATO!!!

Now why is that?

BECAUSE THEY DO NOT TRUST RUSSIA!!!

Having trust issues tends to happen for people when your country has been forced to join a Communist State...ie...The Soviet Union....and then for 50 years or more have Russian's controlling everything in a persons every day life and many of these Nations lost thousands if not millions of people to starvation when Soviet Forces went and confiscated their Crop Harvests and shipped the food to Russia...never mind stealing these nations natural resources without any compensation.

AboveAlpha

 

When all else fails just make up statistics, the reason why Putin is trying to limit foreign owned media outlets is to insure further authoritarian control over the Russian media:



The already repressive press freedom environment in Russia declined even further with Vladimir Putin’s return to the presidency in 2012, as authorities relied on both crude and sophisticated forms of media management to distract the public from terrorist attacks, economic troubles, and antigovernment protests. The government maintained its grip on key television outlets and tightened controls over the internet during the year, and most state and privately owned mass media engaged in blatant propaganda that glorified the country’s national leaders and fostered an image of political pluralism—especially in the months ahead of Putin’s victory in the March presidential election.

Although the constitution provides for freedom of speech and of the press, officials have used the country’s politicized and corrupt court system to harass the few remaining independent journalists who dare to criticize widespread abuses by the authorities. The constitution and a 2009 law provide for freedom of information, but accessing information related to government bodies, the judiciary, or via government websites is extremely difficult in practice. Russian law contains a broad definition of extremism that authorities frequently use to silence government critics, including journalists; the enforcement of this and other restrictive legal provisions has encouraged self-censorship.

In the summer and fall of 2012, Putin and the parliament—controlled by his United Russia party—approved a series of repressive, vaguely worded measures that significantly expanded the array of regulatory tools available to stifle legitimate news reporting on politically embarrassing issues and limit the work of nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) on media matters. A law passed in July reintroduced criminal defamation, with fines of up to five million rubles ($153,000) or up to 12 weeks of forced correctional labor. The year’s other new measures included a law that increased fines for participation in unsanctioned rallies from a maximum of 300 rubles ($9.15) to 300,000 rubles ($9,150); a law requiring NGOs with foreign funding to register with the Justice Ministry as “foreign agents”; an expansion of the legal definition of treason to include cooperating with international organizations “against the security of Russia”; and the expulsion of the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) from Russia.

In addition, a vague, restrictive law that came into force in November granted the state telecommunications regulator Roskomnadzor broad authority to shutter websites, ostensibly to protect children from harmful information. In the first month of the law’s implementation, Roskomnadzor blocked 4,640 websites for allegedly containing “offensive content” related to drugs and pornography. Internet service providers were already required to block content on a government-maintained list of “extremist materials.” Critics of the restrictions alleged that the growing role of the internet as an alternative source of news had prompted the authorities to expand their control over web-based content.

Prosecutors in 2012 charged a number of government critics—including journalists, media outlets, ordinary citizens, and whistle-blowing civil servants—with defamation, extremism, and other trumped-up offenses in an effort to limit their activities. In a major ongoing case, Aleksey Navalny, one of Russia’s most prominent bloggers, posted embarrassing allegations of corrupt financial practices among senior government officials on his blog. In retaliation, he was detained, smeared in the pro-Kremlin media, and had three criminal fraud investigations launched against him by the end of the year. Separately, in April a court in Kemerovo convicted blogger Dmitry Shipilov of “insulting a state official in public” for two posts that had mocked the region’s governor, Aman Tuleyev. Shipilov was sentenced to 11 months of community service, with 10 percent of his earnings garnished. In May, Maksim Yefimov, a blogger and opposition activist from the northwestern Karelia region, fled to Estonia after being charged with “inciting religious hatred” for criticizing the Russian Orthodox Church’s close ties to the Kremlin.

A wave of antigovernment protests in response to widespread fraud in the December 2011 parliamentary elections led authorities to intensify verbal and legal harassment of media outlets covering the demonstrations in the months ahead of the March 2012 presidential vote. In January, Putin publically accused Moscow-based liberal radio station Ekho Moskvy of continually “pouring diarrhea” on him. The next month, prosecutors briefly subpoenaed Ekho Moskvy’s editor in chief, Aleksey Venediktov, for an alleged labor code violation, while the radio station’s owner—Gazprom-Media, an arm of the state-owned natural gas monopoly Gazprom—abruptly announced a change in the board of directors that included the removal of two independent members. In response, Venediktov resigned from the board, but remained editor in chief. Also in February, police and security officers, as well as more than 100 financial auditors, raided the headquarters and 19 branches of National Reserve Bank, whose owner, Aleksandr Lebedev, partly owns the prominent independent newspaper Novaya Gazeta. Separately during the year, the authorities used legal technicalities to harass foreign correspondents whose reporting embarrassed the Kremlin. In February, Federal Migration Service officials in Vladimir, east of Moscow, detained French journalist Anne Nivat, interrogated her for four hours, canceled her business visa, and expelled her from the country in retaliation for her interviews with opposition activists.

According to media monitoring by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), more than 25 documentaries praising Putin were aired in the weeks ahead of the March presidential election, while private broadcasters virtually disregarded the campaign activities of other candidates. The media were largely filled with either apolitical entertainment or pro-Kremlin propaganda, avoiding coverage of protests by members of a rising urban middle class who demanded better public services and less corruption. In March and October, Gazprom’s national television channel, NTV, broadcast a two-part pseudodocumentary, Anatomy of a Protest, in an effort to smear increasingly popular activists such as Navalny and Sergey Udaltsov, a leftist opposition leader.

Although the internet remains freer than other media and provides a wider diversity of news and opinion, the authorities are aware that its growing popularity is undermining the dominance of state-controlled outlets and have been responding with more aggressive intimidation of independent-minded bloggers, content removal, and manipulation of online expression. Kremlin allies have purchased several independent online newspapers or created their own progovernment news websites, and they are reportedly cultivating a network of bloggers and computer hackers who are paid to produce pro-Kremlin propaganda and disable independent news and blogging sites. The websites of prominent independent media including the newspapers Novaya Gazeta and Kommersant, Ekho Moskvy, the internet-based television station Dozhd, and the news aggregator Slon.ru all experienced denial-of-service attacks in 2012, especially surrounding the presidential election and anti-Putin protests in Moscow in June. The Federal Security Service (FSB) and the Interior Ministry engage in widespread surveillance of e-mail, blogs, online bulletin boards, and websites. Using upgraded technology, the FSB has expanded its ability to monitor all telephone and internet communications of perceived political opponents. Roskomnadzor developed an automated monitoring system that was activated in time for the December 2011 and March 2012 elections to improve its detection of “extremist” content on the web.

Journalists in 2012 faced the threat of intimidation or physical attack when covering sensitive topics such as the situation in the restive North Caucasus, government corruption, organized crime, police torture, electoral violations, and opposition activities and protests. Widespread lawlessness allows politicians, security agents, and criminals to silence journalists with impunity. During postelection protests in Lubyanka Square in Moscow in March, police officers used violence to arrest three journalists. An officer struck Kommersant FM radio reporter Ulyana Malashenko on the head with a baton, causing injuries that required hospitalization. In addition, police arrested two journalists and a leading opposition blogger at a demonstration in Moscow’s Pushkin Square on the same day. In April, Elena Milashina, a special correspondent for Novaya Gazeta covering rights abuses in the North Caucasus region, was repeatedly beaten by two men in the Moscow suburb of Balashikha. In June, Russia’s chief federal investigator, Aleksandr Bastrykin, took Novaya Gazeta deputy editor Sergey Sokolov by car to a forest outside of Moscow, asked his guards to leave them, and allegedly threatened the editor with death, after Sokolov refused to apologize for the content of an article documenting alleged misconduct by Bastrykin and other law enforcement officers in a criminal case. Bastrykin reportedly apologized the next day. In July, the Elektron radio and television station in the southwestern city of Krymsk was besieged by a variety of government inspectors after it aired complaints about the abysmal assistance that flood victims were receiving from local authorities.

According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, one journalist was killed in retaliation for his work in 2012. Kazbek Gekkiyev, a 28-year-old news anchor for a local affiliate of the state broadcaster VGTRK in Nalchik, capital of the North Caucasus republic of Kabardino-Balkaria, was shot in the head and killed in December after Muslim separatist fighters in the region had posted death threats online against journalists working for state media. Investigators said the assailants had asked Gekkiyev if he was a news anchor before shooting him. The authorities have failed to investigate or solve the vast majority of crimes against journalists in recent years. Suspects who are identified rarely receive serious punishments and are often low-level criminals involved in attacks ordered by others. In December, relatives and colleagues of Anna Politkovskaya, a prominent Novaya Gazeta journalist who was murdered in Moscow in 2006, denounced a closed two-day trial of former police officer Dmitry Pavlyuchenkov, who was originally charged with organizing her murder. Pavlyuchenkov had struck a plea deal with prosecutors that resulted in him being charged only as an accomplice in the killing, receiving an 11-year sentence, and paying three million rubles ($99,000) in compensation to Politkovskaya’s family; he was not compelled to publicly identify the mastermind of the killing.

The authorities exert significant influence over the information landscape through a vast state-owned media empire. The state owns, either directly or through proxies, all six of the national television networks, two national radio networks, two of the 14 national newspapers, more than 60 percent of the roughly 45,000 registered local newspapers and periodicals, and two national news agencies. Government-controlled television is still the primary source of news for most Russians. Media diversity continued to decline in 2012 as private companies loyal to the Kremlin and regional authorities purchased additional outlets, and most other media outlets remained dependent on state subsidies as well as on government printing, distribution, and transmission facilities. Lively if cautious political debate was mostly limited to glossy weekly magazines, news websites, and Ekho Moskvy, all of whose audiences were composed largely of urban, educated, and affluent Russians. The country’s ongoing economic crisis has led to a decline in advertising revenue for the few remaining independent media outlets, forcing some to tone down their news coverage in pursuit of advertising contracts from government agencies. In August, a state-run television channel led by a council of pro-Kremlin Muslim clerics began broadcasting progovernment programs on Islamic themes.

International radio and television broadcasting is restricted. Most private FM radio stations have been pressured to stop rebroadcasting news programs from the British Broadcasting Corporation, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL), and Voice of America, relegating those services to less accessible short- and medium-wave frequencies. In November 2012, RFE/RL lost its medium-wave local broadcasting license due to the implementation of a 2011 law prohibiting foreign ownership of broadcast media.

Online media have developed rapidly, and an estimated 53 percent of the population accessed the internet in 2012. In one sign of the changing environment, the market research firm TNS reported that in April 2012, Russia’s leading search engine, Yandex, drew more visitors per day—19 million—than the popular state-controlled Channel One television station attracted viewers. Also during the year, journalists widely utilized online news sites, blogs, social media, and smartphone images and videos from citizens to expose election violations and other government abuses.


http://www.freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2013/russia#.VFAgq8m7aS0

 

THAT ..... is BS.

What happened in Crimea is a direct result of a US sponsored coup in Kiev. Had there been no coup, there would have been no reaction from either Russia or the Crimean people and the status quo would have remained.

If Russia came out on top of that deal, it just goes to show that blowback is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

Blaming Russia for America's (*)(*)(*)(*)-up is just stupid. Here's a tip. Quit meddling in other countries and there won't be any unintended consequences.

 

Any one that believes those Nations want the dollar to collapse is a moron, if the dollar goes their economies go also. But hey keep humping Putin's leg he might pat you on the head for being a loyal pet.

 

I don't know about that "top German editor" guy, given his background, but I am confident nonetheless that our media repeats a script on matters of international policy, war, national security, etc. that is prepared by some portion(s) of our state apparatus. Because, as you say, they all tend to say the same things and omit the same things, and of course they always, and I mean ALWAYS offer a pro-D.C. viewpoint on every single matter. Even the controlled opposition of, say, Fox News to a Democratic regime like we have at present will not question fundamental claims or actions in this arena. They will offer all manner of criticisms of el presidente and his staff, as well as of (D) congress critters and such, but they still follow the script, which doesn't necessarily call for loving 0bama & company.

By the way, if you haven't heard it yet, I really recommend you check out the No Agenda show -> http://www.noagendashow.com

 

Plus, it all happened in the immediate wake of Snowden and Syria, where Russia rubbed America's face in the mud and then smeared it all around really good not once, but twice.

It was nice of Langley to let the olympics finish up before launching their covert war, though.

 

Difficult to say at the micro level, but honesty in business at the macro level is a hindrance in the USofA. It is something to be ignored.

 

The neo-cons were already pissed that Putin got Iran to the negotiating table on its nuclear program, thus thwarting another fun time in the ME.

 

People are not stupid, the leaders of those countries don't want the US$ to collapse if it means suicide for themselves.

Since the collapse of the USSR, the world no longer is forced into the West vs East model which forced countries to operate through the US or USSR. With the freedom to pursue their own agenda unencumbered by US (or USSR) interests, many nations have been steadily and incrementally weaning themselves from the US$. That process has accelerated due to the global recession, weak US recovery, weakened US government, and economic growth of emerging nations. Nations are better able to politically and economically deal on their own terms, and they are.

But there is caution because of the size of the US economy. Even now if the US entered a depression it would pull down the global economy and have a strong impact on nations that are not directly dependent on the US$. But the days of the US$ being the world reserve are numbered. Its obvious to everyone, even the UN is talking openly about it.

And if you read the thread, this isn't just about Putin. Nobody likes being pushed around, and throughout the Cold War (and to today) the US has pushed around a lot of countries. People want out from under the US boot, and a lot of emerging countries think its their turn to be top dog.

 

I always get a good laugh when those who support Putin label any independent action by a Nation as being a US sponsored coup!!! LOLOLOL!!!!!!

Here REALITY!!!

If the United States offered STATESHIP to both Georgia and the Ukraine....BOTH NATIONS WOULD AGREE TO BECOME U.S. STATES IN A SPLIT SECOND!!!!!

No one wants to join Russia.

AboveAlpha

 

Wow!

Did you ever READ what Snowden released?

Some of it was EXTREMELY EMBARRASSING for Russia and China....ESPECIALLY CHINA....as Snowden the TRAITOR released detailed and comprehensive talks between the U.S. and China where Chinese Authorities agree with the U.S. that the North Korean Leader is a Spoiled Brat that needs to be contained by all parties.

There is also data specific to the Russian Military requesting assistance from U.S. Warplanes as the Russian's were LOST.

AboveAlpha

 

Traitor to whom? I don't share the interests of those who deign to spy on me.

 

No, what we have here is a really dumb attempt at deflection LOLOLOLOL!!!!!

And what is this STATESHIP offer BS? LOLOLOLOL!!!

If you don't know that a coup happened in Ukraine then you ARE BEYOND HOPE and all this crap you supposedly know ain't diddly-squat LOLOLOLOL!!!!!

 

This is a slippery slope.....and there is always going to be those who covet the power of having this level of NSA collected information and that is why it is so important to have others Policing the release of use of such data....but make no mistake....what the NSA does is necesarry and it protects not only the U.S. but the world as well.

As well all know the NSA records and stores every bit of electronic data and communication happening on land, underwater, undeground and in air and space.

But as far as what the average person talks about the NSA could care less and such data is never listened to but it is scanned by a number of different computer software.

Here is the thing....the United States has a responsibility that goes far beyond just protecting itself.

We must also protect out allies and trade partners and we even protect China and Russia to a great extent.

Let's create a fake scenario where a Dirty Bomb goes off in New York.

Now what would happen to the World Economy? COMPLETE CHAOS AND DEVESTATION!!!

The facts are that the entire World Economy is directly tied with the massive U.S. Economy and if we go down so does the entire PLANET!!!

And people better HOPE that some 9/11 type attack does not happen again in the U.S. because back in September through December of 2001.....when I was brought in as a CONSULTANT to help determine and temper U.S. Administration and Military Contingency Plans....the first night I was in a meeting I said to myself....."WOW! I have to try to figure a way to get some of these people to CALM DOWN!"

There was talk....SERIOUS TALK....about ENDING the Islamic Extremist Problem and ENDING the Iranian Nuclear Issue AT THE SAME TIME AND IN ONE MASSIVE ATTACK!!

There was also serious talk about sending in B-2 Stealth Bombers into North Korea IN FORCE....as well as sending in F-117's and then later F-4 Wild Weasel's in huge numbers and equipped with the H.A.R.M. anti-radiation emmision missiles both not only to destroy all North Korean Radar Systems but as well the B-2's using GPS guided Munitions were to completely destroy North Korea's ability to launch missiles, direct AAA and we also were to destroy underground North Korean Tunnel Systems that goffer the DMZ as to allow North Korean Troops to travel under the DMZ and come up in South Korea.

Within Minutes massive wings of B-1B's and B-52H's would destroy all North Korean Artillary which on the DMZ line could cause HAVOC striking the South Korean Capitol Seoul.

The USN. Sub Force would be tasked along with the USAF to launch 2000 lbs Precision Guided Missiles and Bunker Busters striking Airfields, Command and Control, Coastal Defenses, Bridges, Tunnels, Nuclear Facilities, Chemical Weapons Facilities.

GPS Guided Tungsten Steel Casing surrounding Depleated Uranium Missiles would penetrate to any depth required of them and then after the penetration and initial blast a combination of Fuel Air and Magneseum Burning Ground Penetrators....and ther Mag Burners are outlawed by treaty EXCEPT when used to help destroy Chemical and Biological Facilities.

The Nations suspected of causing 9/11....and as it was determined this was the act of a Terrorist Group....but if this attack had been determined as being planned by Syria or Iraq or Iran or Yemen...etc....thinking back on how things were then and how I would have to say the people of the United States....and I don't care if a person was a Marine or a Doctor or a Housewife or a little kid playing baseball on a playground....when I asked them what they thought we should do as a response to the 9/11 Attacks.....EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHETHER THEY WERE ADULT, CHILD, MILITARY, DOCTOR OR YOUR BASIC MOM SAID....."MAKE THEM BURN!!!"

So basically the people of the United States went into a Temporary State of Insanity back then.

THIS IS HOW THE NSA HELPED PREVENT THE UNITED STATES FROM NUKING THE MIDDLE EAST....DESTROYING NORTH KOREA.....TARGETTING AND DESTROYING ALL IRANIAN SHIPS, PLANES, NUCLEAR FACILITIES AND at the time we were asked what the response should be after the U.S. Navy, Air Force and Space Command as we intended to destroy any Satellite Communications that Iranian's used whether it was for the Public or for their Military......and THIS QUESTION AROSE.....

The question was.....what will be the U.S. Military response if Iran were to spill over the Iran/Iraq Boarder and attempt to attack our Forces that we had already agreed to send in and take over Iraq....and the answer was......if such Iranain Forces come in the same method as they did when they used to attack Saddam's Forces....we send in a B-1B loaded with Psy-Op's leaflets that were written in English, French, Farsi, Arabic and as well were PITOGRAPHIC AND SELF EXPLANATORY.....as they told the story.....EITHER RETURN HOME OR DIE!!!

If the Iranian's did not return home....they would be all killed using a combination of USAF Carpet Bombing and the use of MLRV...Multile Launched Rocketed Vehicles which are used by the U.S. Army and Marines and were considered by the Iraqi's and Afghani's THE MOST DEADLY AND HORRIFIC ANTIPERSONAL WEAPON EVER DEVISED.

They called it....STEEL RAIN.

At first during those first 2 weeks after 9/11 the HAWK'S and DOVE'S for that matter wanted to give Iran an Ultimatum to either allow the U.S. Military Nuclear Weapons and Nuclear Facilities Destruction Teams in to Iran.

Failure of the Iranian Leadership to do this would result in the destruction of ALL IRANAIN NUCLEAR FACILITIES and we knew and still KNOW where they all are as we have everything from NASA Developed and used GROUND AND OCEAN DEEP PENETRATING RADAR.....as NASA has been using this for decades as it allows us to see deep underground into any Celestial Body a Probe visits.

We actually TOLD PAKISTANI LEADER GENERAL MUSHARREF....."The intelligence director told me that (Mr Armitage) said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the stone age'," Gen Musharraf was quoted as saying. The revelation that the US used extreme pressure to secure Pakistan's cooperation in the war on terror arrived at a time of renewed unease in the US about its frontline ally.

Gen Musharraf told CBS he was stunned at the bluntness of the US approach in the aftermath of the attacks.

The REASON we told Musharraf this is because he was resisting a few demands as far as alloing the CIA access to specific Al-Qaeda prisoners in Pakistan....and Musharraf simply did not understand the seriousness of our demands.

Now.....all these preperations were going on as the U.S. Military was ordered to be prepared FOR ANY AND ALL BATTLES.

THANKFULLY.....cooler heads prevailed as the LAST DESTRUCTIVE PLAN waas chosen and that was to Invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

I lobbied against invading Iraq but even though there was no connnection between Al-Qaeda and Saddam....it was thought that the war in Afghanistan was too remote and too limited for it to be able to proerly demonstrate overwhealming U.S. Military Superiority to everyone on Earth.....thus Iraq was invaded.


HOW DOES THIS CONNECT TO THE NSA????

This is how.

IT WAS THE DATA AND INTELLIGENCE GATHERED BY THE NSA....that prevented the United States Leadership from ordering a massive U.S. Military Strike into Iran and North Korea.

The NSA spy data allowed us to know that Nations like CHINA had absolutely NO INTENTION of using the 9/11 Tragedy to gain a foothold in Taiwan.

The NSA spy data also allowed us to know that although Iran intended to supply their Shiite Iraqi Bretherine with SHAPPED CHARGES FOR USE IN ROADSIDE IED'S.....it also allowed us to know that the Hardline Iranian Religious Leadership and their Presidential Mouthpiece....at the time Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad....had lost a HUGE amount of Political Support not just from the Iranain People of which over 70% are UNDER THE AGE OF 30 YEARS OLD AND HAVE DEEP RESPECT AND DESIRE TO LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY AND HAVE VERY GOOD RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES.........

....but as well this NSA spy data allowed us to know that Iranaian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad has lost favor with the REAL POWER in Iran.....Ayatollah Ruholllah Khomeini....also publically stating it was having issues with the Iranaian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad.

This allowed us to know Iran was not in any position either Militarily, Economically or Politically to decide to attack U.S. Forces in Iraq and especially Basra.

In fact it was the intel. given to us by the NSA that SAVED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES.

AboveAlpha

 

I was using that as an example.

Georgia and the Ukraine want to be members of the WORLD OF NATIONS where disputes are attempted to be settled LEGALLY.

Russia annexed the Crimea not because there were a number of Russian/Ukrainian's living there but in fact annexed the Crimea because it was found to have well over 1000 Times the amounts of Natural Gas first thought.

Putin could not allow the Ukraine to replace Russia as Europe's #1 Supplier of Natural Gas and as it is the Ukraine's Pipeline...Russia has no legal authority to force the Ukraine to allow Russia to use that Gas Pipline.

AboveAlpha