Russian Tanks Cross Border Into Ukraine

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    I don't see any mass protests in Mariupol?
     
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    I just posted a Biblical overview which relates to why God told me in August 1993 a new Tsar would arise in Russia.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ca-and-the-west.587215/page-2#post-1072586731

    This is part of God's message God sent me to deliver to Putin. It is the end of the age Elijah message that turns the hearts of the children to their forefathers and vice versa. It is the message for those who seek righteousness to look to the Biblical rock from which they came. Isaiah 51:1

    Aryan Christian Orthodox Tsarist Russia was once called the New Israel and New Jerusalem. Russia's legendary history says St Andrew himself first Christianized the Slavs and Rus. Jesus sent His disciples to seek His lost sheep of Aryan Israel who had been scattered among the gentiles and had become gentiles since the 8th century BC [the word gentiles means nations]... and the vast majority of those lost Aryan Israelites had settled in Europe where they had become many nations... all of whom became Christian!

    God's wonderful message to His Aryan European Christ-bearing people is the key of David that leads to God's New Jerusalem which has 12 gates, one for each of the Aryan European Israelite tribes to enter.

    Is this divine message not worthy enough to give God's Tsar?

    It is more than worthy... and I have willingly sacrificed 21 years of my life to do so!

    The heart of the Tsar is in the hands of God!

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    Your message is not spiritual, it's focus is upon things of earth and time.
     
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    Have you read the Bible?

    In the Old Testament/New Testament, Jerusalem/New Jerusalem, the Kingdom of Israel/The Kingdom of God are both on the earth. In both the OT and NT, the ONLY immortality the Bible promises is the physical resurrection of the dead in Christ into immortality and the physical translation of the living in Christ into immortality to inherit the earth.

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    This is a liberal hit piece against Christian conservatives and Russia... but here are some interesting quotes:


    U.K. Far Right, Lifted by Trump, Now Turns to Russia

    April 23, 2021

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    Now that Mr. Trump is out of office and the American money is apparently drying up, Mr. Robinson and some other far-right figures are turning to Moscow. Mr. Robinson, who is fighting a potentially costly libel case in London this week, did a media tour of Russia last year but three associates told The New York Times that part of his agenda was kept secret — to seek accounts with Russian banks.

    “Why else would you visit Russia?” said Andrew Edge, a former senior figure in the English Defence League and another far-right group, Britain First, who said that he discussed moving money to Russian banks with Mr. Robinson and Britain First’s leader, Paul Golding.

    In many ways, Mr. Robinson is now useful to the Kremlin — which has often encouraged fringe political figures who might destabilize Western democracies — for the same reasons he was welcome in Mr. Trump’s Washington.

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    “Red Square’s beautiful,” he said. “I was surprised just how nice it is.”

    “I might move to Russia,” he added.

    Mr. Robinson’s week in Russia was a full-throttle media tour, including a 30-minute interview with RT, the Kremlin’s English-language propaganda channel, as well as an appearance at a packed auditorium in St. Petersburg, where he gave a lecture titled “The Rape of Britain.”

    In one interview, with a libertarian activist and Kremlin critic, Mikhail Svetov, Mr. Robinson explained that he had flown to Russia because he felt “silenced in the U.K.”

    “I’ve come to seek a platform,” he said.

    By rushing to Moscow, Mr. Robinson was perpetuating a myth on the Western far right that portrays Russia as a defender of white conservative Christian values and its president, Vladimir V. Putin, as a paragon of valor. Russia also gives a platform to Western extremists blocked from social media.

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    In a phone interview that he filmed, Mr. Robinson joked that he had gone to Moscow to find a Russian wife, but denied opening or discussing opening any bank accounts in Russia, or holding assets outside Britain.

    He said he had simply accepted an invitation to speak in a country that welcomed him more warmly than his own.

    “I wanted to go and see what Russia was like and try to understand the freedom aspect because our politicians and journalists go on about how Russians have no free speech, how Russians have no freedom,” he said.

    “But I wanted just to let them know that we don’t over here, we have a facade.”

    It is a message that the Kremlin’s propaganda networks dutifully conveyed.



    See link for entire article

    https://dnyuz.com/2021/04/23/u-k-far-right-lifted-by-trump-now-turns-to-russia/

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    The Apocalypse also says that there will be a new heaven and a new earth, though. You're right about the resurrection of the dead, but they're not supposed to inherit this earth:

    A New Heaven and a New Earth

    Rev. 21:
    1 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

    5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

    6 He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”​

    The cosmology here is bonkers, of course, because it was written from a very ignorant perspective that couldn't fathom a universe beyond the earth itself, hence the old heaven and earth "passing away" and there simply no longer being any sea, and the whole thing being replaced in this manner. But you can see that the writer imagined everything somehow "passing away" and being replaced, and the resurrected dead inheriting the new Jerusalem.

    Get it right so you won't be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur!
     
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    New heaven and new earth are symbolic of purification and rebirth.

    But many don't seem to understand that Bible prophecy - OT and NT - is filled with symbolism.

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    Jesus is symbolic of the sun. Jesus's life and times in the synoptic gospels represent the sun's journey through the Zodiac. His birth, death and resurrection are symbolic of winter solstice, right down to the three days. This is also revealed in plainer language in the Apocalypse:

    Rev. 12
    1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.​

    Mary, mother of Jesus, is the more symbolic form of the woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. Both symbols ultimately point to Virgo.

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    The entirety of the Gospel is a work of astrological symbolism. Even the "wisemen" or "magi" were Persian astrologers. Probably not real people since the events of the gospels are fictitious, but it's a significant indication of how important astrology was at the time. It was actually the foundation of religion. It all came from worship of the sun and the sky, and astrology is also intimately tied to the calendar, and thus to agriculture, in the ancient world.

    So yes, I understand biblical symbolism to some extent. Better than you do, it would seem. You still take much of it literally, which is childish and silly.
     
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    Are you and Jeannette in the Wish They Were Dead Poet's Society?
     
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    Truth.
     
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    Another gem.
     
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    Why would you blame Jews as a group over the alleged actions of a couple of individuals?
     
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    It's not alleged, it's historical fact. And a majority of Bolsheviks is not a couple of individuals. Deal with it. BTW, you really need to quit following me around trying to flame bait every thing you can't defend.
     
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    It doesn't make sense to attack a religious or ethnic group over the actions of a few individuals, Bill. Yours is a bigoted attitude and you look like a massive hypocrite crying about alleged "Nazis" in Ukraine while whining about Jews like you do. Deal with it.
     
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    It doesn't matter how many Bolsheviks may have been Jewish. It's no reason to attack Jews as a whole.
     
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    ...which Bill, of course, did not do.

    Some Jews have done bad things. To say so isn't saying all Jews are bad. Just like how saying white people doing bad things doesn't mean all white people are bad, or black people or asians...
     
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    Exactly

    If you're a jewish president and your military is committing ethnic genocide under your command and you do nothing about it, you don't get a pass just because you're a jew. So-called jewish, I may add. What kind of jew celebrates a national holiday for a nazi? I'll tell you what kind, the kind that doesn't care about nazis just as long as they are killing ethnic Russians as opposed to jews in general. Zelensky is a vile POS.
     
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    No one is celebrating a national holiday for a Nazi. Bandera was not a Nazi, Bill.
     
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    That is, of course, correct. Hell yeah he was a nazi. Was the Waffen SS 14th Division nazis?, of course. ukrainian nazis.

    Here's a jewish source on the topic you might like to read:

    https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/
     
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    Wrong again, Bill. Even your link says "Nazi collaborator," not Nazi. @modernpaladin 's link says:

    The Ukrainian parliament last week declared January 1 a national day of commemoration for Stepan Bandera, who briefly joined forces with the Nazi occupation of Ukraine. A nationalist, Bandera hoped the Germans would allow his country independence from the Soviet Union, though the Nazis later arrested him.​

    So, not a Nazi. Just a Ukrainian nationalist who sought the independence of Ukraine from the Soviets, i.e. the Bolsheviks you seem to hate.
     
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    Like I said, its debated. Supposedly he joined in with the Nazis to get free of the Bolsheviks, then rejected the Nazis later. Many of his supporters did help round up and murder Jews. Maybe he hated Jews too, maybe he just hated communism more than nazism. IDK.

    ...but banning books about him pretty much guarantees he was up to something inconvenient to the narrative of the regime.
     
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    aka 'Not a Nazi, just a Nazi collaborator.'

    FTR- I'm not opposed to celebrating independence from communism, even if it was achieved by facilitating holocaust. Communism is evil too. But its important to consider all the facts.

    Do statues of Bandera in Ukraine have a plaque mentioning how many Jews were sacrificed in the move to independence from soviet communism? Cuz that seems historically and contextually important...
     
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    He joined the nazis and did what nazis did. Once it became obvious the nazis weren't going to let him have his own country, he continued doing what the nazis were doing just under his own banner. He was never on the side of the allies. I don't think once you take off the SS uniform, you magically aren't a nazi anymore.
     
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    Why should they? Jews were not sacrificed for such a purpose. The only reason any of us are even talking about Bandera today is because a bunch of imperialists and fascists in Russia want us to, because they've made it part of their false justification for invading and annexing Ukrainian land and attempting to destroy Ukraine as an independent nation entirely, the same kind of **** Nazi Germany attempted to do in Poland and elsewhere.
     

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