Santorum "Oops" moment - Supports State Right to Outlaw Contraception

And since gay sex or gay marriage are not listed....well than 10th takes hold.

 

This is why I hate religion and right wing nutjobs that think up stupid nonsense like this. But they are a bunch of hypocrits. If it weren't for contraception the hookers they've been banging all these years would be all knocked up with their illegitemate children.

You tell me what's the lesser of the two evils for these religious nutjobs: using contraception or your knocked up hooker? And they don't believe in abortion so I guess they're pretty screwed! LMAO!!

Hmmmm....

 

There is an enormous amount of truth to this statement.
　
Organized religion is a social disease.

 

"I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them other people's money." "I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn their money and provide for themselves and their families,"

"Let me just say I want to make everyone's lives better," Santorum said. "Again I dont know what the context was but what I've said and what I always believe is that everybody in America should not be dependent on these programs."

How is that racist Hanzou? Care to back up your BS?

 

I don't know why conservatives are so much against unions and are not against organized churches. Both of them are lobbying government while at the same time receiving benefits from American people...

 

how does he not know his own context?

 

Do you remember the context of every statement you've ever made?

 

That's a horrible comparison.

Only one of those two requires dues, and compulsory membership.

 

How was it racist in any way?

 

He has his opinion; you have yours. You have missed the core importance of his point, however:

A true tolerant person would be OK with a state allowing its own people to decide issues like this. Santorum's statement here has less to do with his own personal views than it is an acknowledgement of what TRUE personal liberty is.

Do you want to force every State to have no power to determine these things for themselves?

 

No, he won't - and for someone who is so sensitive to "scare-mongering", what gives you the right to throw some out of your own?



The answer in my previous post applies to you as well.

 

Like what, you can only screw your wife on Saturday night with the lights on? No screwing while menstruating? Those kind of statues?

How about men can't wear shorts in public? No skirts above the ankles.

Santorum = American Taliban.

 

Are you saying that me paying their share of taxes (since churches are tax exempt) is not a compulsory membership? It is even worse since when union takes my money at least I know how they spend it and as for churches - I'm not even a MEMBER...

So the state is basically an agent of a church, takes my money and gives it to some clergy.... Talk about personal freedom now....

 

So I guess he wouldn't mind those states to recognize same sex marriages?

 

right, states should have the power to decide.... except on gay marriage, expanding medicare, tort reform....

 

He's a religious freak, same as the Taliban = American Taliban.

 

Um...wat? You now have contorted your position into actually claiming you're paying taxes for an entity that doesn't owe taxes??

But you don't get your underwear bunched for the ~50% of households which don't pay any Federal Income Tax.

This is incredibly convoluted. Churches are exempt from taxation in order to guarantee no state influence over a religion. It is expressly unConstitutional to tax a church.

A Union forces dues from their members, and doesn't give them a choice whether to join or not.

 

No, not same as the Taliban. I worry less about a fundamentalist Christian than I do with fundamentalist, jihadi Muslims.

 

Huh? Why shouldn't states have rights in other areas too? WTF are you talking about?

 

You did it too. Can you guys stay on topic? I don't mind answering those questions, but for CRISSAKES...if you want to cede that you lost the LAST topic, do so before moving on to the NEXT topic.

States should have the power to allow same sexes to "marry".

It shouldn't be required to be recognized in other States, however.

 

Santorum doesnt agree.....hes only for states rights sometimes

I wonder, what if my prescription for BC comes from out of state? is that ok then?

 

as far as I know there is no mandatory job requirement in the US...you dont have to have ANY job, let alone a union one.

 

Yes, you are correct, states can pass whatever law they want.

And if that law is challenged in the legal system and deemed unconstitutional it is thrown out.

 

A fundie is a fundie is a fundie. They all want to push their religious agenda.

 

Actually, the Constitution is "only for State's Rights...sometimes". That's why certain powers are enumerated to the Federal Government. Only those specifically enumerated to the Fed should be undertaken by the Fed.

And you're talking with me right now, not Santorum.

You cannot figure out the answer to that, within the framework of what has been discussed here? Fine: as the lucid Conservative, I'll answer for you:

It is up to the residents of a State to determine whether or not your use of contraceptives should be allowed, regardless from where you acquired them.

Now...that said: wouldn't you think that every State's population as presently constructed will not pass such a thing?

Would it be additionally logical to believe that - over time - those people of like ideologies will find it appealing to perhaps move to locations that best reflect the way they wish to live? That - if such a measure were passed in a State - that those who would not be willing to tolerate such a restriction, it is incumbent upon them to either suck it up and live within the constraints their local society has placed upon them...

...or move away to somewhere that lives as they wish to live?

Isn't this the best way to ensure the most freedoms and tolerances for people of all belief systems? As long as it does not violate the precepts of the Constitution which bind us all?