Santorum "Oops" moment - Supports State Right to Outlaw Contraception

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Ancient Aliens is where I nkow him from I think....
     
  2. Brewskier

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    Nice strawman.

    Kindly produce a quote from me condemning Ron Paul's newsletters. In fact, I remember several times saying I agreed with the content of those letters, and found nothing wrong with them.

    If anything, I said I doubted Ron Paul's sincerity when he said he doesn't know who wrote them.

    Why do you even try?
     
  3. Roon

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    I asked a question. Where in my post did I say that you said anything?

    Why do you even try?
     
  4. Agent Zero

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    They most certainly don't.
     
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  5. Brewskier

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    I'm sure you quoting my post meant nothing. :roll:

    Nice backpedal attempt, though. Almost believable.
     
  6. Roon

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    You seem to begrudge Ron Paul at every attempt even on the newsletters you found a backhanded way to call him out by questioning his integrity on his explanation of the newsletters...you imply that he is a racist and is lying about not writing them.

    Yet it isn't plausible that Santorum is a racist by that comment....it was just "uncomfortably true".

    I was tongue in cheek pointing out your obvious hypocrisy. I didn't say you said anything specific about his newsletters as your previous post implied.

    Nice try though!
     
  7. Come Home America

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    Wow, a real political winner...not surprising that Pennsylvanians booted Santorum out of office in 2006 as an out-of-touch wacko in a record 17-point landslide...but perhaps Ricky should consider the fact that Mississippi recently rejected such a contraception ban proposal in a referendum by a 57-43 margin...
     
  8. Consmike

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    So you're against state rights then?
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    Why? Did I call for tort reform or a federal gay marriage ban?
     
  10. Brewskier

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    Oh, so you were addressing me, after all.

    It's very telling how you couldn't produce any quotes from me suggesting that Ron Paul is a racist. We have to rely on your limpwristed inferences.

    I don't think Ron Paul or Santorum are racists by the way, so there goes your last claim about hypocrisy. Since blacks have almost the same amount of welfare recipients that whites do, despite being less than 1/5 the white population, I would say Santorum was absolutely spot on.
     
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    LMAO, the insanity of even thinking about the execution of the law. The level of gullibility from the right, with the smallest notion of getting that into law is even more hilarious; completely bonkers :omg:
     
  12. Brewskier

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    Clearly you don't understand the issue.

     
  13. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    no, you are against Santorum's call for states rights.

    Can you show me where marriage or sex is listed in the constitution? thanks
     
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    Hello, trump all your constitutional bravado all you want, you can't enforce that law.

    Heck, why can't someone place a magic spell around it, aka sperm retention force field, and voila, protection. :mrgreen:
     
  15. Brewskier

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    I suppose to a leftist, any mention of the Constitution evokes this kind of response.

    You can enforce a ban on contraception the same way you enforce a ban on other banned goods. Will people still be able to get it? Sure. But they won't be able to buy it in local stores.

    It's a stupid law. But Santorum's point (the one you couldn't understand because it's too Constitutional) is that the Court shouldn't be forcing all states to abide by rulings that result from individual states putting forth laws like this.
     
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    For the love of God, you want local governments the authority to make laws that will harm others. You forget what if some people are out of state, are you actually going to stop that.

    This cannot be enforced, it is too vague, it would be worse prohibition. This would be an economic and legal nightmare, that part is so obvious.
     
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    But there is a right to a home, job and healthcare....right???
     
  18. Brewskier

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    And an Ipad and laptop in the class room, according to Jesse Jackson Jr.
     
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    Oh, and these are just the tip of the iceberg.
     
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    Santorum and Romney won caucus, now witch hunt begins! :popcorn:
     
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    Looks like it began 5 pages ago...but the witch hunt bubble seemed to have busted.

    :laughing:
     
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    You don't want to be in the room when that santorum bubble bursts.... :puke:
     
  23. Antix

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    Well considering the states MUST allow at least the federal bill of rights to be included into their own state constitution, it would be somewhat inaccurate to claim the states may pass any statute they desire. A states violates their own constitutions by passing a statute which violates the federal bill of rights. At this point, if the federal constitution claims you have sexual privacy rights, all state constitutions claim that you have sexual privacy rights.

    The 10th Amendment was intended to protect states from adverse laws passed by the federal government, not to shear the states of any responsibility from their own bill of rights.

    Federalism has greatly diminished ever since the civil war and 14th amendment.
     
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    This guy is a dinosaur. He's clearly living in the dark ages with his idiotic belief that birth control is somehow immoral:

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/01/03/396516/santorum-states-should-have-the-right-to-outlaw-birth-control/

    Outlaw birth control, eh? Prepare for a rise in abortions, seeing birth control is what PREVENTS abortions. Is he going to oppose hormonal birth control for medical reasons? He'd have to since he can't be sure what the woman is using it for.

    How about he mind his own darned business and let people use birth control if they want to. Because if there is one thing the pro choicers and the lifers can agree on it is this: Birth control is a hell of a lot better an option than abortion.
     
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    These people believe birth control IS abortion, since there is a tiny chance a fertilized ovum may be prevented from implanting, thus committing murder.

    When he says "allow birth control" he means ONLY CONDOMS, not The Pill!

    The Right Wing is simply trying to sound a tiny bit sane with this new version of "states rights" being able to override the Constitution. They don't realize the contradiction and omissions make them sound even crazier!

    In reality, Santorum will happily try to pass federal laws outlawing The Pill and any other hormonal birth control.
     

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