Saudi Press: U.S. Blew Up World Trade Center To Create ‘War On Terror’

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  1. Loki The Sly One

    Loki The Sly One Banned

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    Yes!

    I love deranged conspiracy.

    Usa plot to start war in iraq. Although bush jrn didn't seem competent but solid theory.

    Now tell me usa. In area 51. Is that where the aliens are stored guarded by elvis.?
     
  2. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Who is your shepherd mate? The head of NIST?

    At least dozens of people reported explosions. Explosions and the results of explosions were visible during and afterwards.
     
  3. katsung47

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    884. Typical Chinese secret deal (2/24/2015)

    The Feds used to make a secret deal with a hostile country to frame a case. The advantage is nobody can investigate the case in a hostile country. People also tend to believe the framed case, rarely they will think of that a hostile country would cooperate with the US intelligence.

    In my case, the Feds used to bribe N. Korea. N. Korea is small and weak country, the payment it demanded is less expensive than the China. See #879 to #883.

    The typical Chinese one is much bigger.

    That was EP-3 spy plane hostage case took place in early April 2001. I then found an article in internet.

    Though the article was vague and confuse as a cover up misinformation, I still extract some information from this passage.

    It was a secret deal between US intelligence and Chinese secret police. The signatory and guarantor are agents of DEA and FBI.

    Chinese secret police was to provide a smuggling case of Heroin “China White?so they need a news censorship for the reputation of China.

    So said mainstream media is under control of the Feds. They can guarantee what news be released or not.


    885. Huge payment to China and internet harassment (2/28/2015)

    On April 1, 2001, an US EP-3 spy plane collided with a Chinese fighter jet and landed in Hainan Island. 24 crew members were released on April 11, 2001.

    On same day, Mr. Sherman H. Skolnick wrote an article "RED CHINESE GET BIG BUCKS IN SECRET HOSTAGE DEALS". He revealed a huge ransom has been paid to China by the US.

    Obviously S.SKOLNICK was an insider of the intelligence so he could quickly access to the internal information. Of course he could not release the truth of the deal and had to pack it with a lot of unrelated material and cover up information to confuse the outsiders. It took me years to find the truth. Skolnick was dead five years later in 2006. I think he was murdered for that article even though he was an insider. This article now was not available in Internet as it was in earlier years. I was lucky to save it in my memory.

    Three days ago, when I wrote #884 to quote the content of that article, the window became blank and the USB lost its function. The agent who monitor on my computer disabled it. I had to use another computer (not accessed to internet) to unload the USB, then copy it word by word. When I wrote this article(#885), the window system is harassed again and I have to re-write it in notebook. It only proves my analysis on Skolnick's article is very correct, the Feds are afraid of it.
     
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    This guy actually thinks there is an "agent" that just sits around all day and monitors his computer. Lmfao. Do they make pills for that kind of crazy?
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    Actually Alien crash debris and perhaps bodies are stored at Wright/Patterson AFB in Dayton Ohio home to the USAF's Reverse Engineering Division.

    Area 51 which is a remote detachment of Edwards and Nellis Air Force Bases is where super advanced U.S. Air Force Aircraft are test flown.

    It is also known as Dreamland.

    AA
     
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    How's it go Vader ole buddy ? :handshake:

    Still can't face the TRUTH about 9/11 can yah ?
    [color=#fffffff]...........[/color] The Pill's just to bitter for Yah ain't it ? :mrgreen:

    If Building 7 collapse was caused by from debris hitting one side ?
    [color=#fffffff]..............................[/color] Then collapse would have been asymmetrical

    'No explosions' - Witnesses beg to differ -
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=building+7+explosions
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=SBTqAwA%3D&q=building+7+explosions
    & on & on


    Physical 'Evidence'? -
    Crime Scene Evidence, quickly swept up and put on a fast boat to China

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  7. Durandal

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    Well hey there, ya Conehead :D Glad to see you're still kicking UND bashing away at the keyboard. I was starting to wonder!

    No, there were no explosions... of a demolition sort, at least. That's quite apparent. People outside and inside the building would hear demo charges going off. Furthermore, we would have visual evidence of their going off caught on video, but we don't. Furthermore again, as I said before, we would have physical evidence left behind - no explosive simply disintegrates without leaving a trace. And furthermore once more, the buildings would not have collapsed starting at the point of impact by the respective airliner if explosives were being used.

    As for building 7, I think that comes down to a number of factors. One biggie is how the building was designed, especially in its support structure. I'd check with the experts (not conspiracy loons, but real, actual experts) about that. I recall reading about it, but I don't recall the details now. Of course that info is readily available online. Feel free to check it out ;)

    Conspiracy theories such as this one, like creationism, which also tends to become a conspiracy theory when the issue of the scientific community dismissing it as plain stupid comes up, persist not based on real evidence, but based on ideology - in this case a paranoid, anti-government ideology.
     
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    This from a character who lives in a "Orwellian Dystopia" :mrgreen:

    & yah this bird is still chirping -
    Getting Beamed Up a lot more often too - mixed with a couple of close calls :roll:
    ......................................... leaves me little time to kick the DOGs around here

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  9. Durandal

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    Remember to eat your fish and fiber :D Good diet is surely the ticket to good health, coupled of course with a little physical activity.

    I live in an Orwellian dystopia thanks to human stupidity. I think we're doomed to fall into that kind of trap due to the dynamics of how wolves in sheep's clothing interact with the rest of us (they become politicians or seek other forms of power and status), and so our lofty ideals of democracy do not stand the test. Ours isn't the kind of overt dictatorship mirrored in 1984 from the Soviet Union under Stalin - it's actually worse, in fact harder to define and escape from.
     
  10. Durandal

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    There were sounds that were described as explosions. Perhaps they were some form of explosion - I understand that the electrical systems may have been blowing out during the tower collapses. But there was nothing like demo charges heard or seen. It wouldn't have been only people inside who heard such things going off..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65tzBUqxqd8

    Those things are LOUD.
     
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    Bin Ladin construction did the concrete from the 94th floor up and WTC2. Audio recording of interview.

    http://algoxy.com/psych/audio/laffoley.interview.mp3
     
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    At least dozens of people, including firemen, reported explosions.

    Dozens of people, including firemen, saw and reported molten iron, for about 3 months.

    Where ya been?
     
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    Phillip Morelli and William Rodriguez both heard explosions in the basements and sublevels before the planes hit.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9t1ck_9-11-world-trade-center-basement-ex_news

    http://algoxy.com/psych/images3/listen_to_the_demo_waves.mp4
     
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    What's molten iron supposed to prove, assuming it actually was that?
     
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    So, you've got a guy speaking years after the event, and then you've got a low-quality video of the collapse of one of the towers. That video obviously doesn't help the "before the planes hit" claim, and a claim made years later doesn't add much either.
     
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    I expect that claim is a lie.

    It has NEVER been mentioned in all the 9/11 books, documentaries, and films -- that the Bin Laden family helped build the WTC complex.
     
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    There were Saudi national citizens involved in the hijack of some planes on 9/11, wether they knew it would lead to the war on an idiology is unsure.

    The ultimate collapse of the North & South Towers, WTC 7 and part of the Pentegon were no doubt the responsibility of the American Government.
     
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    It is true. I saw a documentary in 1990 on PBS, 2 hours in length that mentioned an Arabian concrete contractor taking over at the 94th floor of WTC 1.

    Dr. Ron Larsen Ph.D, physics researched it and found record of the documentary supporting it existence. Download the web radio audio where he talks about it.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?syi4xmtikmm

    That is why PBS is named as concealing treason in my 2010 disclosure of my knowledge of the concealment of treason.

    Evidenced facts here.

    http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html

    http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.civreassign.html

    http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.civreasign1.html

    The last two pages have proof of a federal judge concealing the concealment of treason.

    All of the published info on 9/11 at the WTC is heavily managed to prevent disclosure of anything that might undermine the official story.
     
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    Morelli was there months afterwards too with written stories of his testimony . There are more reports too.

    The USGS refuses to this day to release the direct recordings of nearby seismometers because they could be used in a "fast Fourier transform" which transform amplitude into frequency and high explosive have a ver distinct frequency when detonating.

    The blasts prior to plane impacts were to divide the seismic signatures even further so the graphic released would not show the shock waves of the well coupled foundations loaded with millions of tons.

    There are video accounts Ive never seen here.

    http://usabuzz.net/page/video/eyewitness-testimonies-of-the-bombs-inside-the-basement-of-the-wtc-twin-towers

    All I had to do was search.
     
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    The point of the thread, I support. The Saudis know.

    Osama BinLadens father was the concrete contractor in 1969 for the Twins. Many Saudi national working there knew. This is why the usenet had to be removed before 9/11. There would have been dozens of facts destructive to the official lie available to America had the usenet been in place.

    It was removed and replaced in 1994-5 to be replaced by dot com.
     
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    It proves that the official NIST story that burning office fires and gravity, along with structural damage to 8 floors, caused the towers to collapse, cannot be true. Burning office furnishings on 8 floors cannot melt steel and keep it that way for several months.
     
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    The intense heat were a combination of the jet fuel burning but more important the generation of extreme heat due to kinetic energy transfer of a massive aircraft impacting the buildings.

    The kinetic energy transfer ALONE is more than enough to generate temps. well above those needed to melt the beams.

    AA
     
  23. truth and justice

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    That kinetic energy would have been dissipated within a few seconds of impact into the fabric of the building. A bit like hitting a rock with a hammer causing a spark. That spark is at a high temperature but will not cause a fire without inflammable material available and would definitely not cause a beam to melt.
     
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    Pure nonsense sir.
     
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    Wrong.

    Never mind the extreme amount of kinetic energy generated by the body of the aircraft the fuel and everything in the aircraft traveling at over 500 mph would also exist at temps. well above what was needed to melt the beams.

    The majority of the melt occurred in a few milliseconds.

    Plus the structural integrity of the towers was damaged by the impact.

    AA
     

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