Saudi Press: U.S. Blew Up World Trade Center To Create ‘War On Terror’

If only Mohammad would have kept his ridiculous dreams to himself people might have lived much freer, happier and better lives over the past millennium plus.

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Is this going to be your continued style of debate?

You have never read a book apart from the Koran, have you Margot?

 

I have read thousands of books other than the Koran.. As it happens I am an American Christian.

The Saudis are known for their hospitality..

Joan of Arc was burned to death for her visions.

 

Three of them, to be precise. All quite understandable considering all of the facts.

 

Saudi Arabia did not benefit from 9/11; indeed it was a disaster for them. That doesn't mean that they had nothing to do with it, which is why they were secretly hustled out of the country on the day of the attack and have fought ferociously to keep the 28 page summary of their role in getting the attackers ready to strike classified and away from the eyes of the American pea pull.

Does this mean that the king summoned bin Laden, gave him a bag of money and told him, "now go blow up the World Trade Center!" Of course not. The royal family are masters of plausible deniability and there is no reason to think that this most spectacular of al Qaeda operations was ordered by the Saudi government or that the top officials even had direct knowledge that the operation was in the works.

But that isn't the whole story. Bin Laden made his bones fighting the USSR in Afghanistan, part of the Saudi opposition to Communism which has always been a corner stone of KSA foreign policy and the basis of American friendship and support for the Riyadh government. That holy war in Afghanistan was supported by many members of the Saud clan as a pious duty.

Religiously motivated financial support for Qaeda's fighting the Soviets was directed out the Saudi front door; out the back door there was considerable support for bin Laden as Muslim paladin against the other enemy: Israel and its big brother, Uncle Sam. International terrorist organizations like Qaeda operate through an organization of cutouts, clandestine bank accounts, false documents etc. Queda's big time, international, multi-million dollar operation was made possible by clandestine operations in which the Saudi foreign office played a secret but very important part.

While most of us do not -know the specifics of the famous 28 pages, a good deal is known about the role of Saudi institutions and mid-level officials in the support of Qaeda in Sudan, Afghanistan and Pakistan (OBL's final home). There are many incidents like the case of the consular official in San Francisco who provided the necessary support for the 9/11 attackers who entered from the West Coast and enrolled in flying school. Did the king know about this? Probably not. Does that mean the diplomat who arranged housing, finances etc, was a rogue lone wolf? Phuleeze!

 

The Saudis are known for a great deal other than their hospitality. And, yes, Joan of Arc was burned to death.

 

And all three just so happened to collapse within their own foot-print, so as not do disturb other buildings.

 

The number of Saudi's who were members of Al-Qaeda at the time....is a tiny percentage of the total number of Al-Qaeda members yet the Saudi's were chosen for this terrorist attack purposely.

AA

 

There are not many non-Muslims who would ever participate in this sort of attack. They have to be fanatics.

Do you have any numbers of what percentage of Saudis were a part of Al-Q at the time?

 

Of course they fell into their footprints.. The buildings were not knocked OVER they fell down. The impact of the planes and the fire cut the spines of the buildings.

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Hard to say.. The CIA had recruited hard in impoverished Yemen to get men to fight against the Soviets. By 1994 KSA had revoked OBL's Saudi citizenship and declared AQ a terrorist organization.

 

I guess they think the towers should have fell like dominoes and maybe the would have if the planes had been flown into the first floor but that would be some precision piloting wouldn't it

 

They think the towers should have fallen over sideways.

 

Nonsense. The damage observed, the proverbial big picture, could not possibly have been caused by burning office furnishings, as NIST claimed. 15 years of coverup after.

You should count WTC5&6

 

Not true Margot, as to the dynamics involved in the take-down of the towers and WTC7

 

Whatever.. I am weary of crackpots and conspiracy nuts.

 

I'm into human behavior, and the way humans conspire fascinates me. Oh the web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

 

That is not accurate. The fires weakened the structure. They did not cause the major structural damages, which we know to have been caused by the plane impacts in the case of the towers and by debris from the tower collapses (or one of them, at least) in the case of WTC7. Examine the collapse of both towers. It begins where each was impacted by a plane, and there are no explosions evident at those points and times. Any form of explosive would have been heard (by people outside of the buildings), and absolutely would have left behind physical evidence.

 

Not according to the NIST reports. Post 103

 

Not even a word there to support your assertion that the "impact from the planes were not contributing factors". You cant comprehend what you read. Explains some of your silly views. .

 

No, it is just you who cannot comprehend the following short words:

"....helped the buildings withstand the aircraft impact....."
"...The hat truss resisted....."
"..... in a robust building that was able to redistribute loads...."
"....enabled the floors to redistribute loads without collapse from places of aircraft impact damage to other locations...."

 

I had some dealings with a few when they were over here for flight training. They were such upstanding examples of their religion by having drinking parties at there apartment after work. They were called out by my neighbor's for inticing young girls from the neighborhood to join them. After talking to my daughter I was told a couple of her friends had gone their and she was invited also. The neighbors were told that it would be very hard to press charges as they could plead diplomatic ammunity. My only other incident I had was with some Saudi woman on a flight to Frankfort Germany. Their was a group of them on the plane and they did partake in free drinks and they were dressed Western style. About a half hour before landing they all made their way to the restrooms and changed clothes into covered heads and faces with the long dresses. What a bunch of phoneys.

 

And yet a further demonstration that you cant comprehend what you read. That merely explains how the towers were able to withstand the initial impact and doesn't in any way suggest that the damage was not a contributing factor.

 

You are really struggling to comprehend the official NIST reports! They conclude that without the fire, the towers would not have collapsed!

 

????? No, you are still demonstrating you cant comprehend. The fact that the collapse wouldn't have occurred without the fire, doesn't mean that the damage wasn't a contributing factor. Or are you trying to slither over to a different position to argue, hoping no one will notice?

 

I provided my proof from the final reports. You've provided nothing. But it's great that you have actually acknowledged "The fact that the collapse wouldn't have occurred without the fire" which is the same as my statement right at the start ( quote: The impact from the planes were not contributing factors (to collapse) )and that is a really funny own goal lol

 

The "spines of the buildings?" Please, spare us the pedantic nonsense.