Self-Driving Vehicles Will Cause Countless Avoidable Deaths, Say No America!

Try to make that easy for me to understand by answering this: if you're driving behind a heavy goods vehicle along a 10-mile motorway/highway, or on a lesser road with just two lanes, how will you overtake it?

 

He/she needs to start planning now just like buggy whip manufacturers of the past.

 

Nice airplane for cross-countries. I used to have a clipped-wing Cub, which was great fun for flying around the patch. Also a Challenger II ultralight.

 

35,000 die each year in accidents or about 100 per day...don't know how many are injured but surely 100,000+...so your comment above is not very accurate...

 

The problem is integrating self-driving cars with driver cars, bicycles and pedestrians. Self driving vehicles operating system is based on road laws and on sensor input. Since there is little rationale to what car drivers and bicyclists/pedestrians might do at any given time, self-driving cars will always be challenged beyond their capabilities and there will be accidents. Ironically, it is this same irrational driving behavior that causes most of the accidents today between driver vehicles. IMO the big issue is integrating self-driving vehicles with the other idiots...

 

Lots of telemetry is need more on landing if the runway is shrouded in fog.
A computer will do a supperior job landing since it can receive data from the airport sensors and computer, and interface with it for adjustments and trim, so the airport computers can land the plane in actuality.

 

How soon before they have self flying planes that land and take off with no help?

 

there will be a time for it, but the technology is not ready yet, trying to rush this will result in unnecessary deaths

a dirty sensor is like drinking and driving

 

It is very accurate considering the accident to traffic ratios.
I did a study of accidents in New York City, observed central communications, rode with A.I.T.s and worked E.M.S. / Fire Rescue, and for the massive amount of daily traffic, there are relatively few accidents, the National fatality rate is low.

 

Automated cars can pass just like humans do.

Plus, slow moving vehicles are legally obliged to make way for traffic they are backing up. Automated slow moving vehicles can do that, too.

In fact, if both vehicles are self driving then automated communication between the vehicles could make passing safer by ensuring full information and accommodation - unlike humans who sometimes speed up when someone attempts to pass them.

 

Cool - a very different kind of flying that is incredibly fun.

Yes, I used mine for visiting family and friends in a different state and for going to an island where I have property. Also, visiting daughters who each went to universities several states away. That was a lot of fun, too, but not the same as your fleet! Low altitude sightseeing just isn't what a Malibu is good at.

 

I agree that integration is significant.

However, in the end I suspect technology will become superior at avoiding the obstacles you mention.

And, I'll bet that will be aided by new requirements for all cars and for roadways, too.

It would be interesting to know why that lady who pushed a bicycle out in front of a self driving car wasn't detected by the car in time to stop. But, that type of accident isn't really all that unusual with humans at the wheel.

 

Agreed on Malibu capabilities. Great for going to wherever whereas in my Cub, with a 10 knot headwind, I'd have one leg hanging out the door flying IFR (I Follow Roads) and watching cars on the highway pass me 1500' below.

 

That's the kind of flying that got me into it. My first ride was with a friend who was a member of a club. We went for a distant hamburger in a Cessna 152, seeing the sights along the way and coming back at night following the interstate (though we had some nav instruments, too, of course).

I think I joined the club the next day!

 

Those $100 hamburgers are great! Although it's been awhile since I went to one.

 

This is scary! Look, even if the cars can increase their speed to overtake, how will they have the capacity to judge if it's safe to do so? I mean, think 'oncoming traffic'???

 

Because any action would be according to established safety criteria and the road computer system could overide the onboard vehicles computer.

And if you are referring to passing, by overtake, as in a two lane road, a computer would not be allowed that action due to complex safety considerations.

A driver would need to switch to manual driving.

 

And you'd be happy to depend on it would you? Well good luck with that! I'll be the best judge as to whether or not I overtake on the road, not a ****ing 'onboard computer' thank you very much!

 

You do not read very well or communicate well either, in English, overtake is to catch up, not pass, you overtake a vehicle then at a safe moment, speed up some more, swing out into the opposite lane and PASS the vehicle then swing in front of it and keep ahead of it rather than slow down.

And you ignored where I mentioned a computer would not be allowed to "PASS" other vehicles due to complex safety considerations.

 

I'm English and I speak English, and 'overtaking' here means passing. You still didn't address how you adjust the speed of an autonomous vehicle to overtake anyway? You do know what 'autonomous' means, do you? Let me know if you don't and I'll tell you.

 

Computer controlled vehicles would not be allowed to (overtake) PASS other vehicles for obvious safety considerations.

Must I repeat it again ?

 

You must be terrified at junctions controlled by traffic lights! And flying - my god, ATC controlled by pesky computers

 

I'd bet the major benefits of self driving cars will be on highways and in cities, for commuting, etc.

Those living in rural areas have different needs in terms of what they carry, how it is loaded, where they drive on private property, etc. I have a tiny electric flatbed that I drive to places like plant nurseries, lumber/hardware stores, etc., and then drive to the (roadless) worksite on a few acres of property I own. I don't want that automated.

And, there is everything in between - including drivers of today who are just not interested in giving up the pleasure of driving.

I'm sure people will choose vehicles that meet their purposes. And, I'd guess there will be cars that have an autonomous mode, but may also be driven by humans as today.

But, driverless cars offer some serious benefits for a lot of people.

 

If you had your way, we'd still be using ice boxes to store food.

 

Within 15-20 years, non-automated cars will be illegal on highways. Those of us who enjoy riding motorcycles have to stay off the highways. Humans simply will not be able to drive as fast as autonomous vehicles.