Serena Williams Fined $2,000 for U.S. Open Outburst

I don’t watch tennis myself, so any point I have here comes only from info from the article or related ones. It does seem like a pretty needlessly strict rule that can easily be abused by a corrupt ref. However, if that’s how one feels about it, as her coach apparently does, the case should be made off the court. You don’t just ignore the rule and then only complain about it after you get penalized.

 

The real question is why did the USTA choose an "inflexible" sexist chair umpire to oversee the women's biggest final of the year
when they could have gotten anyone? Hmmm...

 

What is pathetic is an effort to smear Serena Williams based on that slimy website.
There is not one scintilla of evidence that Williams ever took any PED, She has passed every single test to which anyone has access. yes I read the link. It is an obviously rabidly biased anti-Williams blog with lots of 'contributions' All you have to do is read the headlines and look and the choice of photographs. I am surprised you even tried that I beg posters to look at that link you gave. But there is inside that a link to a commentary by Sujay Kumar https://www.thedailybeast.com/tennis-has-a-doping-problem?ref=scroll, which provides absolutely no context for the disparities in frequency, but does discuss some of the problems with policy and offers his biased views.

. Here is the hard data from the ITF. Below are Serena Williams drug tests, every one of which she passed. https://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/statistics/data.aspx It is important to note that these numbers DO NOT REPRESENT all the testing done on professional tennis players each year. "Notes: figures do not include samples collected by other Anti-Doping Organisations "
Athlete (Last Name, First) Nationality Gender In-Competition Out-of-Competition
The numbers = urine - blood (incompetition) [space] urine - blood out of competition
2017 Williams, Serena USA Female 1-3 1-3
2016 Williams, Serena USA F 4-6 7+ [ 7 or more all urine]
2015 Williams, Serena USA F 4-6 7+ [ 7 or more all urine]
2014 Williams, Serena USA F 4-6 7+ [ 7 or more all urine]
2013 Williams, Serena USA F 7+[ 7 or more all urine] 4-6
2012 Williams, Serena USA F 1-3 1-3
2011 Williams, Serena USA 1-3
2010 Williams, Serena USA 7+ [ 7 or more all urine]


As for the contention mentioned in one of the links that she never took a test in the years 2010, or 2011, that is simply not true. there were no out- of -competition tests (surprise tests) as opposed to in competition post tournament tests but the numbers of oc tests given, varied from year to year and they were random which means the majority of members of the WTA did not get one in a given year. Look at the data and notice how many other women and men also had years without a single out of competition test! Now this article http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2014/04/drug-testing-tennis-increases-not-evenly-all-players/51081/ best describes the reason for the disparities.

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There were significant differences in the amount of testing players received. Dr. Stuart Miller, head of the anti-doping program, told USA Today and the Daily Telegraph that the organization may consider the amount of testing a player receives from national associations, or any other information relating to a player, when deciding whether to test.

He also pointed out that if an out-of-competition test is attempted but the player is not located, it is not shown as a test."

 

Barry Bonds, Marian Jones, Mark McGuire etc. all got away with steroid abuse for year after year.
The fact that Serena Williams has managed to avoid detection, through a variety of methods used by all athletes who are on
performance enhancing drugs undoubtedly, is NOT proof positive that she does not use chemicals to enhance her competitive edge.

It's only proof she has yet to be caught.

All one has to do to see proof of Williams' use of PEDs is to look at Serena Williams herself, just the same as one had only to look at Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Lyle Alzado or Tony Mandarich to see proof positive of their usage.

She looks nothing like any of the other of hundreds of fellow women tennis professionals, nothing like her own sister and her physique, the oversized muscularity of her legs and arms, her square jaw and enlarged head seem as out of place on the WTA tour as an Olympic weight lifter would be competing among field hockey players.


Tell me why the younger version of Venus Williams is not drastically different than her current self, given the natural age difference,
vs. the young Serena Williams juxtaposed with the massive oversized hulk we saw angrily confronting Carlos Ramos just last Saturday.

There is nothing "natural" about the bloated
body of Serena Williams and she would not be the first to use chemicals
to give herself a competitive advantage. Res ipsa loquitur.

 

You have provided photos, opinions and a nasty webpage full of Anti- Serena diatribes. I have provided links to every available drug test that can be found and the results.

Her body shape is not evidence of substance use. It is evidence that she does things that induce strength and muscle development. What you are providing solid evidence for here , is your bias and your agenda.

 

She can't keep her emotions under control .... As well as her hair !

 

I disagree and her body is so out of the WTA norm (it is completely unlike the body of any other professional female tennis player....why is that?) it is not unlike comparing whippets to a bulldog. There is no comparison to be made.

Are you saying this because you must give some reply? it's asinine.
The same could all be said for Barry Bonds, Ben Johnson or Mark McGuire. What a sad fail.

 

'Roid rage!!!

What a sore loser she is:

 

Very out of norm, yet she moves well and even with muscles that are really too bulky for tennis, it doesn't get in her way. The best tennis players are wiry and sinewy. Tightly packed lean muscle in the upper body. Built for speed. Serena has packed on a lot bulk over the years, but its worked. Obviously a baby completely changes your body as any husband can attest, but she's been huge for years.

Won't say she takes anything, but damn, she's huge for any female and so radically different from her early 20s. So much muscle.

 

No we have evidence there, and it can be supplied. You have an agenda.

So I have provided professionally given and analyzed test results for both urine and blood tests over the course of 8 years each of which concluded she had no drugs in her system, and you have provided no test results showing she ever had drugs in her system, and you claim that I failed a burden of proof . Lets try this. Do you have any credible testimony of witnesses that say they either saw her using PED, or had PED in her custody, or saw someone providing or selling her PED. That would be evidence, if you have links and they are from reliable sources. Remember, sir, that credible testimony differs from rumor, gossip or innuendo.

 

THE WORKING CLASS VS. THE POWERFUL:

Umpires may boycott Serena Williams matches after outburst at US Open final.

As seen on Facebook comments, “I stand with the people who are getting paid $600 a match over those who get paid $2 mill.”

 

I would make these points. Yes, mr Ramos' actions are the issue here. I assume you probably haven't seen the video compilation of mr Ramos ignoring the same behavior in other matches? Turns out dude is perfectly willing to ignore things like "coaching from the player's box" when it suits him. Also, long history of ignoring melt downs by the players, and not having assessed penalty points. So, his behavior here seems, arbitrary. Perhaps he simply wasn't having it on that day, and decided to insert himself because he could. Wouldn't be the first time he did this, (also video evidence).

The unfortunate facts are that Serena was penalized for behavior that has frankly been tolerated in others, and by the ump in question. It begs the question then, why just this time, it was a problem for him on that day.

That doesn't mean that I think what Serena did was cool. It just says that her behavior wasn't so far outside of what we witness daily as a part of professional sport that I don't see it as either unusual, or offensive. And frankly, the idea that Tennis believe that they have an entirely different etiquette is one of the reasons that so many folks can't and don't enjoy the sport.

 

I love her sense of style and her braids. If she doesn't have a clothing line already, I wouldn't be surprised if she gets one adding to her millions! She's such an accomplished person!

 

I'm not sure what you mean by Ramos "ignoring" on court coaching. Do you have videos of Ramos specifically spotting coaching from the stands, and then specifically ignoring said coaching? How is that possible to convey in a video?
You would need a view from Ramos' perspective (so we know what he is observing) and then somehow the knowledge that he was aware of such cheating, and then finally, knowledge again of his decision to do nothing.

That would be an interesting video that would also require somehow that we are able to enter the mind of Carlos Ramos
and observe him consciously ignoring violations of tennis rules because how else could we know he was purposely not doing his job?
Post such a video if you have it.

It's interesting to note that Ramos is one of only twenty-two professional tennis umpires world wide that has been designated
a "gold star" umpire and therefore specifically chosen to umpire the 2018 women's finals at the US Open tennis tournament.
It doesn't seem he is negligent in doing his job. And it doesn't seem rational that the USTA, the governing body for tennis in this nation, would purposely select such a poor chair umpire to officiate it's premiere event if what you claim is so...does it?

And finally a melt down per se is not always worthy of a penalty. It depends on many factors of which I'm certain you are not aware. What was said and how was it said?
Was it merely blowing off steam or a personal attack on an official or other person? How long did it go on? Is the melt down a stand alone
event? Or, as in Williams' case, a culmination of a string of other preceding events?

Did you see Williams' melt down in context? Are you aware that her tantrum was tolerated for some time before Ramos finally determined
that her emotionally charged claims were challenging the very authority and legitimacy of the USTA itself and US Open itself?

I don't get the idea that you have taken any of these factors into account. I have played and observed tennis for almost forty years now
on all levels from national to local. Are you experienced in tennis to this degree?

It's also a fact that other players of note (like John McEnroe, Jeff Tarango and Andre Agassi) have gotten the same exact treatment as Serena Williams under similar circumstances, only worse!. https://thetennisisland.com/2015/02/22/game-set-default-ten-tennis-dqs-to-remember/
So your claim isn't quite accurate or complete. Again, I don't think you understand the whole process under which Serena Williams was
penalized (she wasn't disqualified, remember).

Her tirade was only consequential (it cost her a point and therefore a game) because it came after two other code violations (smashing her racquet in two, off court coaching). You also completely fail to take this into account. It seems to be a pattern.

I believe you think this but as demonstrated you don't seem aware of all the factors and other considerations that make your observances moot.

It's also a reason why so many do appreciate tennis.

 

What braids ?

 

Well, good for you then. Compare finals viewship with and without a Williams sister involved. Can't argue with good data.

 

Yes. The agenda is to speak up and honestly address the matter that so many others have all observed.
And your agenda seems to be to simply deny and ignore the elephant in the room, or on the court.

You fail to account for the abnormally large, bulky and muscular body of Serena Williams and how and why she is, among hundreds and hundreds of professional female tennis players, absolutely one of a kind in terms of mass, muscularity and pure size which is absolutely counter to the physical model of every single other tennis player, male or female, that you can name.

Look at the slim, sleek muscularity of Novak Djokovic or Roger Federer. Look at Serena Williams own sister. Look at the physique of the woman who beat Serena Williams at the Open, Naomi Osaka. Serena Williams stands out like a blimp among jet fighter airplanes.
And considering Williams' achievements you have to wonder why other women haven't tried to emulate Williams and bulk up like
a relative sumo wrestler in the world of professional tennis players.

Needless to say the body of Serena Williams is not natural and even for
people who want to bulk up like her you cannot do that simply throuh lifting weights and exercise.
Especially given the slender yet muscular physique of the younger Serena.
I compare her once again to the young Barry Bonds and how he got to where her was.

I already dealt with your questions. Those
points I made are still valid. Res Ipsa Loquitur.

 

So I make dozens of points and all you have to say is lots of people watch when the Williams sisters play?

 

I suppose I just synthesized the conversation to the one thing that actually matters. If no one watches pro tennis, there won't be pro tennis. The more effete it becomes, the less likely folks will want to continue watching or supporting it, or wanting to play it. It's a choice. A bad one, from my perspective.

I could take the perspective that her tantrum wasn't good for tennis. I could. And then, I recognize that even with a wart or two, she's still much better for the game then her outbursts are bad for it. But, I would simply point out that without her, viewership slips. Into the oblivion that makes professional tennis irrelevant then to everyone except purists who probably don't like or watch TV anyway. The more obvious point is, that allowing folks umpire a match who are clearly more interested in imposing their diminutive masculinity on the outcome, well, that isn't good for the sport either. So, you can choose to support whichever side of this you will, but for me, I enjoy having these matches televised. I'd hate to see them dropped because, well, no one gives a shyte....

 

Why does she think she is so special?

 

23 grand slam wins.

 

That would explain the roid raging.

Serena Williams Acted Like a Fool in Public But For Some Reason That's a Teachable Moment for the Rest of Us

 

Par for the course with these folks. They fool no one.


Mike S. Adams@MikeSAdams
I agree that sexism was a factor in the Serena incident. Clearly, she attacked the umpire because he is a man who doesn't put up with her crap. Feminists only give a pass to men (males, that is) who are pansies.

6:42 AM - Sep 11, 2018

 

Okay but I just wanted to reiterate that
every single point you made about Carlos Ramos and the way the Serena incident was handled all had perfectly valid and
not unprecedented reasons for being. I didn't want that glossed over.

Well I make no bones about being a non fan of Serena Williams (Venus is okay) but it's not remarkable that the familiar mannish face of Serena would pull in more people than a final between a near unknown like Naomi Osaka and some even more unknown player like Anastajia Sevastova of the Ukraine (who I believe may have made it to the semis).

That would be a ratings disaster for tv and fan interest in the Open. Having said that, Serena's behavior is not "good" for the sport
or any sport for that matter in the sense that her popularity is not more important than the sport itself.

The US Open is like the World Series...
it gets a massive amount of fan interest from the casual viewer who doesn't usually watch much of the sport. And just like I wouldn't defend or say that it was good for baseball if the Yankees were in the series but were dogged all year by accusations of doping, dirty play and brawling, so I don't think tennis is well served by what Serena Williams did.

I think as many people who thought Serena Williams was somehow railroaded because she was forced to conform to tennis
rules of behavior and fairness came away with real respect for Naomi Osake and how she kept her head about her while Williams
was making a circus of the event. I am not afraid of the day that Serena Williams decides she's had enough of tennis.
The casual fan who is interested in her histrionics is not the sort of person who will make or break the sport anyway.

 

Sally Jenkins, Heather Landy and Gillian B. White are all examples of how the left sees every single thing in the world from the perspective of their own perverted world view.

I find it amazing, no, not amazing, but typical that no one mentions that the man who apparently could not stand having a woman face up to him, point her beefy finger in his face and call him a "thief", a sexist and demand an apology for robbing her was personally selected by President Katrina Adams and the notoriously progressive US Tennis Association specifically, to umpire one of the two premiere events of their US Open tennis tournament.

Who has questioned the horrible decision by the USTA? And will president Adams be help accountable for subjecting Serena Williams to the shabby biased treatment of male chair umpire (one of only twenty-two gold star tennis officials worldwide) Carlos Ramos?

Perhaps Jenkins, Landy and White can form a committee to investigate this unforgivable transgression. Leftist drones are good at that.