Serena Williams Fined $2,000 for U.S. Open Outburst

I completely disagree. Serena has faced racism, sexism and outlandish criticism throughout her exceptional career. She never tolerated it like a shrinking violet but she spoke her mind and then focused on winning. That's the epitome of class. She's a legend, a serial record breaker and a trailblazer and I think that aggravates some of her detractors.

 

I am done with this crap. I don't respect smears. Links to proof that she has used PED, supplied and analysed by WADA-accredited laboratories or shut the hell up about it. Don't play games with me and pass off headlines or half baked media accounts. She is one of the most tested athletes in any sport. Start listing the ones that she failed and the subsequent sanctions levied by the sport.

 

Not the rest of the world, but she was out line. Her coach was sending signals.

 

Coming in late, but womens' rights? Gimme me a break - she realized she was gonna be trounced and couldn't handle it.

 

Where are the Libs for Osaka.
It ain't easy growing up half Black in Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_(film)
Remember Jingo Asakuma/Tia Carrere in Rising Sun!
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/RisingSun
From the book. Theresa (Jingo in the film) is half-black, half-Japanese, and is all too happy to side with the Americans out of pure spite from the horrendous upbringing she suffered in Japan, as racist kids in a fairly enclosed and traditional village would torment her, as well as her extended family shunning her and her mother.



Bravo Osaka
Don't let racist liberals use you!


Moi

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She had a tantrum she's black of cours she gets a post here.

 

She didnt grow up in japan .

 

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Lol...You mean like what you're trying to do now?
Way to reach for the gutter, yet again.

 

So very touchy! If you don't want to read the link then don't (and I guess you haven't). Just don't puff yourself up with your absurd righteous indignation and pretend it settles anything.

Just like with Barry Bonds my eyes are all the proof I need that Serena Williams has created her body through chemistry.
That and all the other evidence. You know as well as I do that she's never been caught, just like all the other athletes who
were able to mask their abuse so stop demanding something you know does not exist.
It's so pathetic. http://themillenniumreport.com/2015...as-serena-williams-been-doping-with-steroids/

 

Ok I've had some time to cool down and rewatch this.

Here's what I believe. Did she receive coaching? Yes. Her coach is a liar. Do the men receiving coaching? Yes. There's a double standard there.

Serena's attitude berating the ref by saying "APOLOGIZE, YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY" over and over, that was jut annoying the ref.

If you want to debate the ref, DEBATE the ref.

But I do see a double standard here from men and women's tennis in the US open and for that I apologize for my argument.

 

The coach admitted he tried to signal Serena Williams. It's not a crime and it happens a lot. When that happens
a warning is issued and that's that.
It happens on both sides of the pro game.

She has no leg on which to stand and it was her inability to accept
the warning, in which she freaked out, that led to her other two violations that in total, resulted in a point penalty and the loss of a game.
"Roid rage"? Could be.

I don't see one and men get penalized all the time for code violations. Period!

 

"Following the match, the United States Tennis Association, which runs the US Open, released a statement from its president, Katrina Adams, hailing Williams for her “class” and “sportsmanship”. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/sep/10/serena-williams-wta-us-open-sexism-carlos-ramos

Katrina Adams would have been right at home in the old Soviet Union politburo making asinine boot licking comments to serve her masters.
The USTA can kiss my butt!

 

Please share
I have been to Wiki once already.
She kept her mother's name for easier administrative reasons in Japan.
That's what Wiki said.

 

Osaka is a self described "Pokemon nerd".
I believe she should just be herself and not pigeon holed by other's expectations.

Just like anyone else.​

If that is the gutter, we need more gutter and less P.C.!


Now you tell me @Surfer Joe (gnarly sets at the Wedge) what political or sociological groupies are most
likely to pigeon hole Osaka today?
Don't ask Moi. I called out the Liberals and you disagree, I guess.



I smell a new thread in my brain.
Pigeon Holing People.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

Oh The Humanity.
Why I prefer cats.




Moi

Count "1" Black Mountie
Comme libéral
Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

On the incident. My opinion is this. The rule that the chair used to create the first "warning" was Ramos' way to insinuate himself into the match. Of course he meant to do it, and of course, he's being roundly criticized for it. And he should be criticized for it. Ramos has a history of abusing his chair, of intervening to change momentum of matches, etc.

To suggest that his conduct didn't interfere with the match is ignorant. The idea that ms Williams' conduct was outside the lines of every day tennis, is quite a stretch. To put if frankly, ms Williams' comments to the chair incited Ramos to gird up his pathetic ego and demonstrate to ms Williams that he could, in fact, put her in a box. And then, did. His actions are unacceptable. Period. Dude should have stayed out of it.

Did ms Osaka play well? Yes. The character of Serena showed her class. Her ability to praise and be supportive of the win even in the face of the travesty committed on her by Ramos, she was still able to demonstrate grace, and class.

We see officials insert themselves everywhere in our sports these days. Obsequious and often petty and deliberate in their willingness to interfere with the flow and outcomes of sporting events to their detriment.

 

IMO, it's really difficult to say who is the greatest ever when trying to transcend era's in tennis. The game has changed so much and so have the surfaces, not to mention racquets, balls, etc....

Still, talent is talent and Serena has loads of it. She would most likely do well in any era. So would guys like Federer and Nadal.

 

Funny how a person can be famous and admired for his epic meltdowns on the court....wonder why this selective outrage over Serena -- who despite your bias, is still one of the greatest players in the history of the sport

 

One might argue that Tennis is trying to prevent that from happening again. Tennis is supposed to be a sport built on tradition and respect. My coach pulled me out of a match in high school from arguing with the line judge (who was just a volunteer parent).

Serena receiving coaching is not new. Every player does it. That I will agree with. Her reaction to it though, was not professional.

 

Courtesy of Australia.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/austra...on-serena-williams-naomi-osaka-153447048.html
Australian newspaper prints racist cartoon about Serena Williams and Naomi Osaka



Um, - - - - how is it "racist".
Because she ain't drawn white?




@k995
Osaka was raised in Florida since age 3.
She speaks broken Japanese but, apparently she is the Japanese of the Hour in Japan.
Applauded for her pleasant personality, sweet disposition and good manners.
Oh and grandfather is going to visit her at her next tennis match. They have been out of touch for sometime.

 

Naomi is black by the way....I like how that is being left out

 

The coach admitted he was giving signals. It was more obvious because he thought Serena didn't see it so he stood up a bit and repeated it. In any event it was just a warning which happens all the time.

Serena just lost it at that point. She is a veteran tennis player so it's not like this was something she didn't understand. Yet she kept lying saying that she didn't have signals with her coach. And she called him a thief for taking a point for the coaching when it was her slamming the racket which was the point violation.

You are right that her continual berating of the ref was why she lost the game. Calling him a thief was just the final straw.

Nothing to apologize for, we are close enough on this.

 

Is Naomi Black enough? The question Black nationalist asked about Obama in '08.
Obama being raised white & foreign, and not in Black Continental America.
Osaka be half Haitian. Not one of ours.

 

Yea no doubt. I think the ref was just annoyed at her constant denial of the obvious + her attitude.

That said, every player receives coaching and hardly get called.

Just let 'em play!

 

I think this is going to be one of the very few times that we will disagree. Not because I disagree that ms Williams' conduct wasn't professional. But that I expect her, in the moment, to be professional. Why should she be? She is no less a competitor than any other athlete at the professional level. I don't ever, for example, hear anyone take male sports figures to task for their being direct, even offensive, and direct. Been to a Nick Saban presser? How about mr Belachek? The passion of the moment doesn't require professionalism. It requires passion.

And while I might think that ms Williams' conduct bordered on childish, it still might have created the internal spark she mentally needed to become more competitive, and was squashed by that sniveling chair umpire. I know the sport has rules. I just find it odd and inconvenient that they are so arbitrarily administered. It leads me to believe that mr Ramos was more invested in an Osaka win than allowing greatness to bloom on his court.

 

You may be right. I personally find Serena to be one of the greatest athletes in all of sports. However the chair ump makes the call. She was acting like a child (APOLOGIZE, APOLOGIZE NOW....etc). It turns out that it was proven she received coaching.

I'm against the call too. I think they should have just let them play. But in sports you will receive a bad call and it's all about how you handle yourself after it.