Serena Williams Fined $2,000 for U.S. Open Outburst

Agree. Not her first issue at the US Open. This is all on her.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/sep/13/serena-williams-tirade-us-open

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-told-official-If-I-Id-ball-shove-throat.html

 

@ArmySoldier

Do YOU remember sportsmanship?
The difference between a man and a gentleman.
Bad sportsmanship should invoke a fine.
Yes bad calls happen, move on. Get over it.
That's the way sports works.
Just don't let Koreans be judges at the Olympics in the future.


In the late seventies I left all interest in professional sports over the
lack of sportsmanship which use to be enforced on professional circuits.
Remember when professional athletes were role models for children and not selfish ( )o( )'s ?
I do.
And shame on anyone who spends a buck to watch such as The Ball Family and their ilk play ball ! & !
I mean ( )o( )'s is why we have "professional wrestling".



Does anyone value Sportsmanship anymore?
Professional athletics should require good sportsmanship to participate.
I miss the fifties. We all stood and sang the anthem. No guest singer & interpretation required.


Moi did I mention

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Sane words there.... That we can all have the grace to turn the other cheek when so obviously wronged. That said, being a crap ump should also get you invited to leave. Tennis is no place for Napoleon wannabes....

 

Every football game I watch there's a bad call. It's all about how someone handles it. She acted like a child, BUT she was screwed over.

If it were me, I would not have smashed my racket and then argued with the chair ump. I would have just shutup and thought to myself "that ump is a dick but I am now focused on this match".

 

Would Federer or Nadal have been singled out for coaching? No, I don't think so. And more importanty, her offense other than pointing out Ramos wouldn't have dared take on a man over coaching was she called him a "thief" which is mild compared to what men get away with yelling at umpires.

Even Navratolova who criticized her "timing" and King and Everett don't attempt to say this wasn't about sexism. The only people trying to deflect from sexism are actually personally attacking Serena. I felt sorry for Osaka, but the fact is the Williams sisters knocked down the race barriers to womens' tennis. I guess the question would be whether Serena could have made the sexism charge as clear by waiting till after the match than calling Ramos out at the time. Personally I doubt that.

 

I posted her pic up thread.

 

As far as I'm concerned that cartoon pretty much sums things up - Serena behaved like a petulant spoiled brat.

This isn't the first time she's had difficulty dealing with defeat - I can remember she didn't handle losing to Jennifer Capriati very well - but this was by far the worst. What disgusts me most of all is how here antics overshadowed what should have been Naomi Osaka's day in the sun.

 

That's purely your presumption. Nadal has received lots of warnings for time code violations.
I don't remember Rafa freaking out and launching into a tirade against the chair umpire. So from the start of your post
we see how you substitute your biases for facts.

Do yourself a favor and check out what happened to American player Jeff Tarango at Wimbledon in 1995 when he called the umpire "corrupt".
You are just plain wrong.

I watched Chris Everett discussing the Williams melt down at the US Open on ESPN and she distinctly refused to blame sexism.
In fact aging feminist Billie Jean King is the only female voice suggesting Ramos was guilty of sexism. Grow up!

Serena Williams is trying to blame her emotional meltdown on the fact that she's treated differently as a woman.That's absurd. The USTA
is very left leaning organization.
And then people like you parrot the charge. And that's a cowardly cop out.

No one made her flip out. No one made her smash her racquet. No one made he scream at the umpire that he was a "thief" that owed her an apology, wagging her finger in his face while America watched is disbelief.

 

Serena should have just shut her trap but that Chair Ump was useless.

 

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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...a/news-story/b0a76842eddc9b890093d78cc5d1bd6e

 

Couple of things here... More than just ms King are responding to the reprimand. There are quite a few reporters, op eds now saying the same thing here.

Second, Serena isn't blaming her meltdown on the fact that she's a woman. She's blaming Ramos for reprimanding her because she's a woman. His record here isn't good.

What is cowardly is hiding behind what obviously is a very sexist image of what women should act like, and not recognize that just like men, women are capable of being childish, arrogant, and spiteful. And while Serena was most of those things, it doesn't in any way diminish the travestry of the behavior of mr Ramos.

 

Is that supposed to be referring to my post? Try posting in context.

And learn something about tennis, which you obviously know next to nothing about.

A code violation is a code violation. It doesn't matter what the reason. They all count the same.
Thanks for displaying your ignorance of the subject matter. You make this very easy.

 

If you don't see the double standard applied the best woman player, probably of all time, that is not applied to Nadal, that is your choice. But Serena's timing is debatable.

 

Bottom line, Naomi defeated Serena in two quick sets.

Bottom line, this entire fiasco takes away from Naomi's victory.

 

So leftist op ed writers are now picking up on the charge of sexism and making it an issue? Wow! Well that's a shock!
Aside from Williams herself and BJ King I haven't seen one single professional tennis playing woman who thinks Serena Williams is a victim of sexism.
Not one! Show me one who agrees with media people now.

I thought you knew what the media was like and the causes they dishonestly push but I guess I was wrong. I have to call that surprising.

Of course Serena Williams isn't saying because she's a woman she completely lost her mind in front of millions of people (as she has in the past).
She had a meltdown because Carlos Ramos had the nerve to do his job, what he is there to do, and he gave Williams a code violation warning (just a warming) for on court coaching...something that coach Patrick Mouratoglou readily admitted to on national television.

To claim that a highly respected chair umpire (you don't get to call the finals of the US Open by being a poor umpire) called what William's coach agrees was on court coaching because he held some sexist grudge against Williams as a woman is just bullshit, frankly.

Williams lost her mind and turned a simple code warning into a full fledged meltdown and then played the woman card to escape
blame for her loss of all reason.
Clearly Ramos' record as a chair umpire IS good, despite what you claim without any justification.

I'll just presume you know very little to nothing about professional tennis
and the way matches are umpired.
As already stated a code violation warning is really an ordinary, common thing and the biggest names in tennis (males and females alike) all deal with them without ridiculous psychodrama.
The behavior of Carlos Ramos is not the issue here. I don't know where you get the idea it is. He did precisely what he was supposed to do. Serena Williams did the rest.

 

There is no double standard to see. You really are swimming in the deep end of the pool when you should be in the kiddie pool.

 

Undoubtedly Serena Williams couldn't handle seeing a younger better player hit her off the court.
That's no doubt the source of her meltdown and for a player who has never been able to handle losing very well
it's easier to blame the chair umpire and make him the issue rather than face the facts of her loss.

 

I'm not to happy with sports media either.

 

Williams and her coach are both acting immature. I don’t doubt that often rule violations go unnoticed; it happens, like, every game in football, including the Super Bowl. There’ve been time when I could see a foul, in real time, from my TV, yet the refs didn’t see it! So how her coach can go on about how it doesn’t happen to others is stupid. I mean, I doubt that’s the first time her ever tried to coach her.

Now her coach whines about how the rules are pointless and ruining the game? Why hadn’t he ever been saying that before the match? Fact is, if you want to play a sport, you have to know the rules and know that breaking them might get you penalized. If you can’t handle that, you shouldn’t be involved in the sport.

 

The post match broadcast by ESPN (with Chris Everett, Mary Joe Fernandez, Chris McKendry, and some guy who I cannot identify) was remarkably even handed and fair minded. Frankly for ESPN, that was shocking.
But I attribute that to the close proximity to the event itself.

Apparently now however as time goes by the left leaning sports media, and op-ed types, are all trying to revise and reexplain what happened at the US tennis center in front of millions of eyes and trying to turn Carlos Ramos into some nefarious villain to save the image of Serena Williams, who has had similar meltdowns in the past.

We all know how the media warps and distorts things in order to accommodate their political agenda. No one should be surprised.

 

Ahh Jennifer Capriati.

Is she still playing?

 

Men being fined in tennis...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-biggest-fines-history-tournament-sees-worst/

https://www.newsweek.com/tennisplayerfinedatpobscenity-996531

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017/10/fabio-fognini-us-open-umpire-grand-slam-ban/69895/

So get the F outa here with the sexist crap and men don't get called out.

I never liked Serena. I respect her talent, but her attitude has always seemed fake. Then again, female tennis players are usually evil SOBs. You can see it on the court when they robotically shake hands or give the fake hugs. And don't get me started on the obnoxious and unnecessary grunting=) The men on the other hand...theres some real respect in the locker room and after matches. Its real genuine. The women all seem like they hate each other and want to tear the others eyes eyes if they had a chance. Watching the Moms play at the club, and talking with many pros, most women just can't handle just playing for fun. Spoken to numerous club pros who do lessons and they rarely have anything great to say about the ladies. Always catty and overly competitive and demanding. Hey, maybe its south FL, hehe.

 

The rule should be looked at, but I have seen the warning given in many a match. While infrequent, it isn't unheard of.

As for the coaching rule itself, tennis has loosened the rule quite a bit. There are times when a coach can even go to the court to coach a player.

Generally they just want to prevent coaches calling serves like baseball managers call pitches. Further they don't want any coaching while the other player is serving.

 

And she should have continued the game and filed a complaint later. The "I HAVE A DAUGHTER" ...."I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR", could have come later.

 

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