Should Blacks be paid "reparations" today because of slavery in the United States?

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The U. S. should pay "reparations" to Blacks because of slavery in the U. S. prior to 1865.

Poll closed Mar 27, 2021.
  1. Yes, the U. S. should pay "reparations" to Blacks today because of slavery prior to 1865 in the U.S.

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    12.9%
  2. No, the U. S. should not have to pay "reparations" to Blacks today because of slavery prior to 1865.

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    One million!
     
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    Blacks are in prison for doing harmful things to other blacks. You can take that bullcrap narrative and stick it. Should those who murder, rape and assault black people not be charged with crimes?

    I did not say we should pay reparations based on who owns stocks. Where did you read that? My point is that reparations will do little good for a people who will not invest that money. When it does little good we are right back where we started. Might be exactly what the race industry wants.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Reparations for Cajuns! Free boudin for life!
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    It's an opinion. Your comment about blacks in prison is based on lies.
     
  5. rkhames

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    If anyone with African heritage feels that they would have fared better in Africa then the US, I say give then free transportation and basis startup funding to relocate back to Africa. But, I do suggest that they make a visit there first. They might find that the will not be as welcome as they might think. If the African Americans decide to stay in the US, then they are already better off, and not respirations are necessary.
     
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    I have no idea what you are talking about now... can you quote which post of mine about “blacks in prison” you are referring to?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How would it be possible anyway? Do a genetic test and award accordingly?? Were their ancestors actually slaves? Were they even here in America prior to 1865? If they are say 20% white do they OWE reparations? Do the math. By any means Barrack Hussein Obama and Kamala Harris get not a penny!
     
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    Couldn't be less guilt. I'm guilty of nothing regarding slavery.
     
  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Neither one had ancestors here prior to 1865. If Barrack did....they were probably white slave holders so he owes!
     
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    The only reason we throw money is so the politicians can gain power or so bureaucrats can siphon off. We just wrote a bill for over 1.9 trillion. With that money we could have given every family in poverty level $60,000. That would have done far more for the economy than what we got. Of course that money would have been spent right away, it would have been easily dispensed, and bureaucrats would not profit. Of course the poor would be poor again within a decade.
     
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    Those who wish to return to their African pastoral 'paradise' may want to visit Lagos, Nigeria first... and then compare that with, say, Baltimore or Detroit....

    [​IMG]. COME VISIT THE INCOMPARABLE 'BARIGA' NEIGHBORHOOD IN LAGOS, NIGERIA! :banana:
     
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    Perhaps those feeling entitled to reparations could just get a one way ticket there!:banana::banana:
     
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    Why didn’t Republicans propose that then?
     
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    Since you want to keep things simple: your question is WRONG. Reparations are not only, or mainly, or even, need be, at all about SLAVERY. They are meant to address the injustice, inequality, & racism that blacks have experienced, as a part of our population, from the time they were, "freed," up until the present day. Racism, while not as openly acceptable as in the past, still has real-life effects. Did you not hear of the couple who felt their bank's real estate appraiser, an older white woman, was giving them an overly-low estimate of the value of their San Francisco home as only being $989k (despite having invested $400k in improvements).
    They made a 2nd appointment w/ another appraiser & changed only 1 thing: the wife, who was black, was not there for the appraisal. Instead, one of her white friends, "played," her. The new appraisal was for almost a half-million more: $1,482,000.

    https://abc7.com/amp/black-homeowne...ity-homeownership-anti-black-policy/10331076/

    And, while things have improved over the last 150+ yrs., it is debatable-- because of President Andrew Johnson, & deals made in Congress-- whether, in the aftermath of the Civil War, things had improved much, if at all, for former slaves in the South. It was a very long row to hoe.

    Even aside from civil rights abuses (& many extra-judicial lynchings), there has been a systemic deprivation of access to the means of accruing wealth, as well as to the educational opportunities which would raise blacks' earning potential. Not only has this robbed black Americans of building their American dreams of success, & passing along the wealth to which they should have been entitled, but the systemic disparities have yet to have been rectified, so the damage-meter is still running.

    One would think, if someone wished to start a thread on a particular topic-- and this is not even the first of your threads on Reparations-- that person would know something about it, or at least learn enough, first, so that the thread-poster would not put his utter-ignorance of the topic on display in his (or her) OP.

    I am NOT in favor of INDIVIDUALS' Reparations checks, BTW. But explaining this would require what I guess you would call, "shades of gray," and you do not wish to be burdened by such details, or information, generally. So my only decision is whether I vote No, based on not supporting direct payments, or because I do not support Reparations, of any kind, based simply on a condition that ended so long ago, as you have erroneously phrased your question to represent, despite the detachment from reality of that supposed, over-arching rationale for Reparation payments.
     
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    What type of reparations are you in favor of? What is the context of the type of reparations program you would propose or support?
     
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    It will never happen, at least not in individual payments. Here's why: My ancestors were poor Irish, most likely came here as indentured servants, so why should I have to pay? There were a few black plantation owners who owned slaves, so should their ancestors have to pay? Many black citizens were not African American (like Kamala) and their ancestors were never slaves, so should they get a check? Besides being just wrong and racist and condescending, it would be a nightmare to figure out who gets a check and who doesn't. And by the way, shouldn't I get a check (see above)?

    No, people whose ancestors, who have been dead for 200 years and may or may not have been abused 200 years ago by people who have also been dead for 200 years should not receive reparations.
     
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    You might call Joe Namath as that one black lady keeps saying I'm glad I called cause now I'm getting the benefits I'm entitled too.
     
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    I don't feel it is something that should even be proposed. I just think it would be a far better way to throw money around. (a little more honest too.)
     
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    I caught that too! I want my Obama phone!
     
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    Good Idea but I thing $20,000 is a little much. Give them a mule and let the country of choice supply the 40 acres.
     
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    They should partner with Ancestory .com and sort it out on an individual basis.
     
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    Maybe we've already made reparations by screwing poor white kids out of scholarships in the form of affirmative action. Or how how bout preferential treatment of small business loans? Democrats would say that LBJ's War On Poverty was reparation even though it threw money down a rathole just like all reparations will do.

    Sorry, equal opportunity is the best we can do. They can take advantage of it, as many have done, or they can grovel in identity politics. The dems will give them another teat to suck on maybe.
     
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    Okay, own up, who was the person who voted yes?
     
  24. Pollycy

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    The poll question was direct, to-the-point. and intended to be focused on what a voter thinks is fair in principle, or, unfair, in a republic where ALL citizens have been the undisputed EQUALS of all others before the law for over FIFTY-SIX YEARS.

    Therefore, I reject your characterization of the thread question as 'ignorant'. The basic premise examines whether a thing is FAIR, or, UNFAIR, on its FACE.
     
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    Well that is the only virtue you seem to hold ..... Honesty. You hold that in spite of being a "Woke Racist". Being "woke" is holding to a "deviant ideology". It is far from being a virtue!
     

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