Should Obama Or Romney Take On Gun Control After Aurora Shooting

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  1. Ivor

    Ivor New Member

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    So a comprehensive list of his weapons has been released? It's also possible to convert an ar15 to fully automatic, especially when the government is helping you murder people.
     
  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That's a really dumb idea. Suppose some people are packing. The original shooter opens up. The packers draw their weapons and start firing. Then one of them thinks that one of the other shooters is firing at him. There will be bodies to the rafters. And then the trigger happy SWAT team shows up and guns down anyone who's left alive. And if one the "good" guys did survive he would be charged with 50 assorted crimes.

    Remember this scene from Unforgiven = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccqdEhytKOk&feature=fvwrel
     
  3. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    ^^ Hell, naw. Cops live to discharge their weapons and having the opportunity to shoot a dude who fired on civilians is their idea of a good time. No thinking twice about that.

    You've never been to the range and had to keep reloading. It's a pain in the ass. It isn't necessarily about shooting people. It's about the convenience. Think of it like a bullet filled super big gulp. Yes, you can buy a lot of smaller gulps, but then you're going back and forth to the 7-11.
     
  4. RP12

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    CNN was speaking about it hours after the shooting. Pay attention.
     
  5. Agrona

    Agrona New Member

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    That's the classroom work. When I got my concealed carry we had to prove to the instructor that we could handle A weapon first, then the weapon were going to use as a concealed. It's not a "hero" course, it was just to show you could handle a gun.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Laws wouldn't disarm a nut, but we can censor violent movies that influence them to think that they are the Joker.

    Hollywood has to obey the gov't. Let's clean up the silver screen and calm then mentally ill people down.

    Perhaps, we should rebuild the mental institutions. Do you think Obama or Romney are brave enough to tell America that we have lost our way since the 1960's, Hen?

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  7. Agrona

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    There's no open carry in the springs, that's where I had to get mine. It may be because of the base there and of course NORAD.
     
  8. Friendly

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    For being a anti-liberal, you sure have a lot of liberal policies.
     
  9. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Go on.......


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  10. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Both are punishing the non-crazies for the actions of the crazies.

    Let's take the guns away from the mentally ill--see how that works?

    OR...this will sound extreme...we accept that in a nation of over 300 million that there will be crazy people and do our best to use the marketplace rather than the government to curb behavior of movie studios and the like.

    No. Neither of them are leaders.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Putting violent images into the minds of the public is not innocent.

    So far, it isn't.

    So, I can buy my CCW pistol and carry it into the movie marketplace?

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  12. Friendly

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    Well you want the government to regulate hollywood and censor their movies........ This is called big federal government... something conservatives are supposed to oppose! You are calling for a federal branch, FCC, to regulate a state that is almost 2000 miles away! What happened to conservatives being anti big government???? the FCC was created by FDR, one of the most progressive and socialist liberals we have ever had in office, shouldnt you hate him for being one of the worst liberal presidents of all time?
     
  13. paco

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    To be fair, this was not your typical mass shooting situation. What is the standard human reaction to a tear gas grenade going off, followed by a hail of gunfire in a darkened movie theater anyway?

    Also, this must also be entered into the equation. The movie theater was a Century 16. We have a Century 16 movie theater up here in Anchorage, and if all of these Century movie theaters have a standard floor plan, then they slope upward at a steep angle from the front of the theater toward the back, and in order to get to the exits, you must first walk down the stairs on each side of the rows of seats toward the movie screen at the front of the theater in order to gain access to the exits which are located at either side of the screen and below the seating areas at the very back of the room. Hence, the victims would have had to have approached the shooter first in order to get away from him and escape from the theater. Which is probably why there were almost 60 people wounded in the attack, with 12 fatalities.
     
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    No one knows what they would do in that situation. I would hope that even having a gun I'd try to help people out that needed help, then maybe pop a round or two in his ass to knock him down. But really, no one knows.
     
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    Not if the smaller gulp is all you need.
     
  16. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    I seriously doubt Willard will ... here we see him connecting American values such as the founding fathers religion of 2nd admendment rights as a function of economic policies ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSoTl5EY0LE

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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    I may complain about the world--I pay taxes so I can do that, but the LAST (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thing I want is government helping me by intervening. That way leads to Stalin or the Taliban.

    Why can't YOU start a campaign against movie violence and cause a change through the demand side? If you're right, the righteousness of your words will win people to your side.
     
  18. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Give us a break with the whining.

    There 's over 310 million people in America. Just because a guy kills a dozen with a gun is no reason to deny 310 million people of any of their Constitutional rights. Do you really expect everyone's rights to be held hostage and eliminated because someone shoots dozens of people?

    If a criminal wanted a gun all he has to do is either buy one from a cop or kill a cop and take his guns. Besides, if a person wanted some guns all he has to do is burglarize three of four random houses and he will get more than he can carry.

    NYPD cop charged with stealing, selling guns from work
    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...ged-with-stealing-selling-guns-from-work?lite

    Only a fool would buy a gun to commit a crime with. It's easier to take other peoples' guns.

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/06/2_covington_police_department.html

    http://banning-beaumont.patch.com/a...olen-in-cherry-valley-burglary-found-on-felon

    http://watsonville.patch.com/articles/police-blotter-gun-stolen-during-burglary

    http://www.abc24.com/news/local/sto...-in-Home-Burglary/cEG8arWUQkO9FMrIrxLIIg.cspx

    http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-swat-machine-guns-stolen,0,4131540.story
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    You'd pay money to go to the range and shoot one round?
     
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    I find it highly irrational to believe stricter gun laws would prevent a psychopath from committing murder. Some people are just incapable of making certain logical deductions.
     
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    If I hit what I was aiming for with that one shot, why waste more. I learned in Arizona that you never ever waste ammo. Too many wild things there. That's why most people don't have cats there.
     
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    You have to practice before you can start "1 shot" items. How do you practice with one bullet?
     
  23. Agrona

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    I started shooting a .22 at nine yrs old, then at 12 my dad taught me to shoot a 30-30. After I learned that I was living hell on coyotes. We were one of the only families in Oracle that had pets.
     
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    And when you practiced, did you bring one round shoot the gun and then go home? Or did you shoot hundreds & hundreds of rounds so that when the time came, you would only need 1 shot?
     
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    Actually, we had censorship of violence and sex, when the federal gov't was tiny. How about this. How about we gut the federal gov't to 1915 size and keep the censorship of violence and sex. You in?

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