Should Trump concede if he loses?

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  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I vote no.....if I were an amoral narcissistic sociopath that is.
     
  2. DavidMK

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    If it's deep and rotten, it ain't a swamp.
     
  3. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    Ever tried wading through one?
     
  4. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

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    I live in 1. You were describing a polluted lake.
     
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    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    Well shoot, that's a legitimate description of the subject.
     
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    I heard that Trump is having mortars installed on the roof of the whitehouse, and is replacing all Secret Service agents with members of the KKK, he is also planting land mines on the white house lawn, ooooooohhhhhhh, be careful lefties.
     
  7. DavidMK

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    KKK guards would abandon him and save themselves and Trumps stupid enough that the mortars and mines would get him becuase he'd forget about them. So yes, it'd be wonderful if this was true.
     
  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Any voting should be care about what the Biden response would have been and it would have been disasterous without the travel ban as the experts and clearly stated and why when they did he tried to claim he was for it. And yes prepared but the fact is the Obama/Biden administration had left us woefully unprepared after their inept response to the Swine Flu but Trump being the businessman he is and supporter of our private industry ramped up production got our major manufacturers onboard to change production lines to produce what we needed and flooded the market place. And "speculative", the experts said we were facing over 2 million deaths. What is entirely speculative is the Biden would have done a better job since there is zilch evidence he would have.

    YES Congress passes bills and Presidents sign them. The Repubicans were able to acutally pass budgets, actually cut spending and the deficits and stop the Democrats throwing out regulatory anchor after regulatory anchor after regulatory anchor giving confidence to the markets to start expanding and hiring. And BTW the recession which didn't start until a year AFTER the Democrats took back the Congress ended less than 6 months after Obama and Biden moved to the White House and before any of their failed stimulus. They failed to pass measures first to help mitigate the slowdown which turned into the recession and then their stimulus failed by it's own measure of success. Compare it to the Republicans response to the 2000 slowdown/recession/dot.com bust/911 and it is quite clear the last thing we need is Biden back in the WH with a Democrat congress.

    See above, the Democrats took back majority control of the government January of 2007 a year before the recession began.

    I was tested back in June and had results in 24 hours. I just got a mailing from my United Healthcare suppliment offering to send me a prescription for Tamiflu and a home COVID test to have on hand incase I started feeling sick. The only hang up to our testing was that the first batch the CDC release had a bad antogen. But Trump got our private industry to ramp up and create new and better test and they are widely available. Biden would still be creating commissions and having "conversations" and trying to run the entire thing top down.
     
  9. XploreR

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    Probably because Trump has broken so many norms already during his term. Add to that the fact that Trump continues to avoid committing to honoring the results of the election if he loses.
     
  10. Heartburn

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    Who was it saying never concede under any circumstances?
     
  11. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Hillary has been misquoted by Fox News & other Republicans on this. Hillary told Biden never to concede under any circumstances, UNTIL ALL THE VOTES HAD BEEN COUNTED. Trump & his supporters conveniently left that last part off, changing its entire meaning, & using that manufactured lie as propaganda against Biden.
     
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    It wasn't a lie, she said it, never concede under any circumstances. Under any circumstances is pretty definitive.
     
  13. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    It's totally different from the entire statement, as I've said. Your version is nothing more than sick propaganda.
     
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    Context is important to Trump quotes as well but who knew? She said it and if it's sick (which I agree it is) it's on her.

    Here is a longer version
    "Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances because I think this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don't give an inch and if we are as focused and relentless as the other side is," Clinton said in an excerpt posted Tuesday."
     
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    I see nothing to be concerned about with the statement you quote. Hillary is right. We should stand our ground until ALL the votes are counted in the final verdict. That should be true for every election everywhere.
     
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    I think it actually is. Close races do recounts all the time. Raising the hue and cry that Trump will refuse to concede is mirror politics. Democrats are judging others by their own standard.
     
  17. XploreR

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    I sincerely hope you're right, but Trump himself feeds the doubt with his refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the election. He's been asked repeatedly & still refuses to commit. Democrats aren't to blame for Trump's actions, or for how those actions sow doubt about his leadership or his commitment to our Constitution.
     
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    Has anyone asked Joe the same question? both of them will do as the vote dictates but neither will surrender a close call election if they believe a recount will change things. We are most likely in for the nastiest election of all time if it's close. Maybe even if it's not close. It's 2020.
     
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    Trump is bad news

     
  20. XploreR

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    Yes, Joe was asked that same question in the recent Presidential debate. He said clearly & strongly that he would abide by the election results & step aside if Trump won. Trump did not do the same. Trump weakens the entire system of American democracy by his self-serving attitude, & undermines American trust in their own elections with his insistence that the mail in ballots are somehow tainted-& all that with not a shred of evidence that it's true. How anyone can cast their precious vote for this human derelict is beyond my ability to comprehend.
     
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    So you don't think all that whining and crying about stolen elections from Democrats from Gore to Clinton undermined Americans faith in their elections? It's all politics, the system works and Trump will move out of the WH if he loses the EC.
     
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    oh Trump can whine and cry, sure he will, worse than any President ever, it will be unprecedented
     
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    I sincerely hope you're right. But I am concerned about the level of damage Trump can inflict on our existing governmental institutions during the interim between election night & the inauguration.
     
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    Trump is the best thing to have happened to our governmental institutions in 30 years.
     

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