Should Trump concede if he loses?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Ronstar, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, then you shouldn't worry about it. It's up to the states to decide how they vote.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Why shouldn't we ALL worry about election officials ANYWHERE improperly opening and discarding ballots?
     
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    What will be fun is in a close election they will start verifying the identity and validity of the mail in ballots. Im thinking they will find hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots.
     
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    I don't like it.

    States aren't even required to get the input from the citizens. It's up to the citizens of the states to ensure their voices are heard. For decades, the corruption and fraud have been growing, yet people keep voting for the same people, over and over. Now everything is so chaotic, nobody can tell honesty from lies anymore.

    I agree it needs to be fixed. If these states are happy keeping corrupt people in charge of important things, there's nothing we can do about it.

    If the state wants to decide their votes based on a fraudulent process, that is their right.
     
  5. Injeun

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    If there are that many ballots outstanding or uncounted, they will not call it on election night. Besides, there are two and a half months till inauguration. Clearly this is far more than the time necessary to count the votes.
     
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    Yep. That's part of why we need to continue condemning Trump for demanding that a winner be announced on the 3rd and to stop counting ballots.
     
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    I am a Trump supporter, and I agree with you. I am giving Trump the benefit of the doubt and assuming he is simply pressing for Americans to vote in a more secure fashion. So his words to announce on the third are meaningless in law. I have no fears in the veracity of the outcome. And to me, whether the result is the next day or the next week is irrelevant. Whoever wins will be our next President. Simple.
     
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  8. Curious Always

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    He has no right to make such a demand.

    The reality is that the votes are never fully counted on election night. The final tally by district doesn't usually change when all the votes are counted, but it does happen.
     
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    Perhaps we want people who will take the pandemic seriously.

    You mean how employment was better in the last three years of the Obama Admin than it was during the first three years of the Trump admin? And the fourth year of the Trump admin....
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    That wouldn't be Biden, he would have caused millions of deaths because he didn't take it serious and opposed the travel ban that saved those lives.

    I mean how the Democrats including Senators Obama and Biden failed to first pass measures to help mitigate the 2008 slowdown that then went into recession, then as President Obama with Vice-President Biden in charge past the failed stimulus and had the worst recovery in modern history. I'm talking how it was not Trump economic policies that caused a global pandemic or even ordered the economic shutdowns in the states. And yes I'm talking those last years of Obama's presidency when he was lame ducked by a Republican Congress who began passing their policies and stopping the horrible ones of Obama/Biden.
     
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    Doesn't he have as much right as a federal judge ordering a state to continue counting past the dates set by the legislature?
     
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    When has that happened, since Lincoln put mail in voting in place? They always have to count mail in ballots. This is news?
     
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    Votes cast in accordance with state law should be counted and votes that are not, should not. So far as I know, Virginia is the only state that authorizes absentee ballots to be counted before the polls close, and even before election day, so you should expect it to be Saturday at the very least before we know for certain who won.
     
  14. PJO34

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    The travel ban (i.e. Trump's main talking point for his robust reaction to the pandemic) was too late, too underinclusive, and in short, useless since the virus was already here. It saved no one. What would have saved people would be if he acknowledged the danger of the virus publicly as he did privately to Woodward, and let the experts make the decisions rather that idiots like Kushner.

    I see. He wasn't "lame ducked" during the last three years of his administration. The "horrible" recovery was only horrible in that Fox News spent every hour telling their viewers how it was horrible and a month after Trump became president, Fox News started talking about how the great the Trump economy was and how Trump fixed everything.
     
  15. Patricio Da Silva

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    There is no widespread voter fraud. The only fraud in this equation is Trump's fraudulent claim that there is.
     
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    What if on election night, Trump has won. The Democrats won't concede as they find tons of votes from boxes from China on Hillary Clinton's coffee table.
    Should we go, sure, I'm sure this is legit? I don't think so.
     
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    It'll be interesting to see how much clever Trump ups them!

    Holding meetings at Mar-a-lago on gov dime and turning the White House lawn into re-election festivus is infinitely more profitable. Makes the Clintons look like sad little amateurs!
     
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    Do you think Barr will stay on as his personal attorney?
     
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    The problem there is it will be he and his that will be defining the level of fraud. Let's say most fraud ever and it adds up to 200 cases nation wide. You know he'll be using words like "nobody has seen this before" and "the worst ever". While technically true it would be better described as "inconsequential" and "insignificant".
     
  20. Patricio Da Silva

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    If he wins by a large margin, it will stand.

    If it's close, there will be recounts before certification by congress
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    Your premise is absurd.
     
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    I might agree with you if there were virtually no one disagreeing with me. That isn't the case.


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    As for subpoenaed documents found to have been in HRC's custody and control for extended periods, a friendly example:

    https://archive.vn/MFUOC
     
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    It used to be rare that conspiracy theories gained widespread distribution before the conspiracy occurred, now they're daily and start at the White House.
     
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    Unfortunately for Trump, the state of NY will be waiting for him to lead him away in handcuffs, so it's understandable why he wants to remain in office for as long as possible.

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-2020-sdny-investigation-1349868
     
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    If there is 9 ballots that are voter fraud, then it won't be considered much of an issue; if, on the other hand there are 30 million ballots that are certified voter fraud, then yes, it could be an issue.
     
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    All bets are off once you get rid of the secret ballot.
     

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