Should we (or the courts) show Trump some 'mercy'?

You're assuming these are equivalent comparisons. They aren't.

 

Read the court ruling.

 

Not to mention on CNN they estimated that the AG should be able to get 250 million plus for the mara lago property....after sitting silent during "trial" estimations that arent even 10% of the actual value.

 

Agreed. But is there a legal guideline (legislation) for this type of 'crime' i.e is there a cut off point for fudging valuations to a certain percent where a court can apply an arbitrary penalty? Or is it law on the fly?

Why is NY suing for actions in Florida?

OP: I know fully well what he is. A dangerous monster that has 30% of the US under a spell. And that means, in my opinion, tread with extra caution.

 

What crime?

 

God grants mercy to those who repent their sins, but trump continues to spout the same lies and refuses to accept responsibility for his actions, so mercy is not an option, and justice is the only way to go.

 

Won't be an issue. He's going to lose AGAIN.

 

She ran on going after trumps real estate business. Not making sure that all real estate in NY was being fair in business but only one person. Why didn’t anyone go after him before he was president? I was dead set on not voting for Trump but I had a change of heart with all this confiscation talk of his assets. I would also bet money that an investigation would prove she discussed this at the DC level.


If Trump wins I hope he uses his office the exact way these people did

 

This question is about as sincere as it would be if it were asked by the head of Hitler's SS, Heinrich Himmler.

Mercy is not a part of the calculation. The actions in question are only measured by degrees of authoritarianism. A little less authoritarianism does not equate to mercy in any manner.

 

Yes. He was found guilty, and has to pony up, and now he is begging for mercy, hence the thread. You're not up to date with things.

 

No. Just being fair is enough.

 

I guess I’m not. What crimes was he found guilty of and what was the proof provided

 

Trump doesn't deserve sympathy.

He does have the right to expect equal treatment under the law.
And it isn't happening and hasn't happened.

The democratic goal of getting trump no matter what is in full swing.

Get trump no matter what means keep him off the ballot, but if that can't be done, hamper his campaign but if that doesn't do it demonize him and destroy him.

There are no lines that cannot be crossed. No lie too big, no plot too devious.

Get trump no matter what. Even if we have to destroy our democracy to do it.

 

True. Fabricated crimes and witch hunts. Hillary DESTROYED evidence on a private illegal server and her staffs devices ONLY after getting caught with classified intel. Slap on the wrist. Case closed. Convenient. Nothing Trump did comes close to that.

The NYC bank real estate BS is done by everyone for decades and no one said ****. The whole industry knows it. The bank didn’t even press charges because they don’t care and no one was hurt. ONLY Activist Leftist judges and DAs did. That’s called corruption.

 

Yes, I'm aware (and no need to read the court ruling which I don't have time for any way). Judge Ergoron sat on his throne and said, 'hm, what do we do here? Hm....*ponder* you know what, let's do it this way. It feels good to me so it must be the right way to do it'.


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For those that don't wish to read the court ruling and want a summary:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/25/trump-354-million-penalty-judgment/

 

To himself? His children? Ezechial the canibal serial murderer?
Who?

 

Your little precious house of cards is starting to crumble. Looks like NY isn't gonna get that 500 million
This brings great joy to my heart

 

I'd say the courts should show a little justice, and equality of prosecutions. Time and again the courts have shown a huge and almost entirely lopsided prosecution. Sent Patel to prison for what , tho' illegal, was status quo in fund raising. Ignored the summer of riots and destruction wrought by the leftwing hooligans and prosecuting anyone associated with J6 a truly "mostly peaceful " protest, Top secret docs case... Trump's case vs Joe Biden.s Trump
s involvement with Ukraine vs Hunter and a slew of swamp rats Kerry's kids, Mitt's kids, and many more.

We've been in a coup perpetrated by the Deep Sate and the Globalist ever since TRump came down the stair case . You want real insurrectionist.. try them... They are near all powerful... to the extent they stole 2020, and HAVE TO steal 2024, or otherwise prevent Trump , the people's choice, from taking office.

 

THere are some two dozen books on Trump and his tour de fraud.

Can't do it in a post, but I will give you the short sh*t-list, I'll substantiate any, on request:

In the 70s, he was charged with discrimination.

He was sued by over 100 contractors for stiffing them.

His charity was forced to close because he embezzled funds for private use and he was fined $2 million bucks. .

He was forced to settle for $25,000,000 because he screwed thousands out of millions in a fake university scam.

He has filed for bankruptcy 6 times.

He paid a porn star $130k to keep quiet about his fornication with her in order to unlawfully influence his election, not to mention his fornication occurred recently after his newly wed wife gave birth. now, if once wasn't bad enough, the cover up trial begins on April 15.

he did it again with a Playmate of the Year, shortly thereafter and she was paid $150k to keep quiet.

He helped his son-in-law leverage his position as a Senior WH advisor to score $2 billion from the murderous Mohammed Bin Salman ostensibly for Trump administration looking the other way when MBS ordered the butchering of Jamal Khashoggi whereby Jared earned a cool $25,000,000 blood money as management fee, noting that he has no experience managing such funds.

Once sued by his niece, Mary Trump, he kicked his toddler nephew, who is stricken with Cerebral Palsy, off the family health care plan to spite his niece.

8 of his associates have been convicted and sent to prison for various criminal acts committed on behalf of Trump.

His Trump org has been convicted of Fraud, some 17 felony counts, the charges included scheme to defraud, conspiracy, criminal tax fraud, and falsifying business records.and it's CFO sent to prison.

Three of his lawyers were disbarred for unethical practices.

He screwed his deceased brother out of his estate's inheritance (the basis for the suit by his niece), he got his father to sign a new will cutting them out of their inheritance, so instead of trump receiving 1/5th his father's inheritance, he got 1/4th, the short story is that for greed, he deprived a toddler family member with cerebral palsy the family health care plan.

Trump, himself, is under 4 indictments, 91 felony counts.

He has been found liable of sex abuse and forced to pay $88 million in damages.

He has has been accused by 25 women of sex abuse, the very things he bragged about in the Access Hollywood tape and sworn to in a deposition.

He was found guilty in a insurance and bank fraud case in NY and must pay $355 million in fines, plus interest and the sex abuse case bringing it to over $500 million. (Reduced on appeal to $175 million, still a lot of money)

He once tried to use eminent domain to screw a widow out of her home so that he could build a limo garage for his casino.

And then he convinced 65 million people that Democrats stole the election, causing a juggernaut of rage resulting in an attack on the capitol on 1/6, for which he has earned some 45 or so felony counts for unlawfully disrupting the peaceful transfer of power and attempting to deny Biden his lawful win of the election by also trying to pressure state election officials to switch elector slates from Biden to Trump. he continues to lie about it and experiences no remorse whatsoever.

His refusal to return defense information documents, including nuclear documents, has brought a number of felony charges including violation of the Espionage act.


And I'm just scratching the surface, the man is not your friend.

 

Mercy? Of course not. Follow the law and uphold the Constitution? Absolutely AF.

And before any of the anti-Trumpers say "but they are following the law and upholding the Constitution", don't waste our time because you all know these cases are 100% political and -100% Constitutional.

 

It's a common refrain, "Trump has no one to blame but himself for what is happening to him. He's just being held accountable according to the law."

Sometimes I wonder if they are trying to convince us or themselves. I know how they scoff at the whole "TDS" thing. But watching all this, It appears to be a real condition. We've been watching it for the longest time now and it's only gotten worse. The really awful part is that nobody in position to do anything about corrupt judges is willing to step up. Where is the discipline of these rogues in our Judiciary?

 

You are. All your posts are wrong.
Do juries always get it right? No. George Zimmerman, Kyle Rittenhouse come to mind. Also OJ. but sometimes the system catches up to them. I don't remember people crying "lawfare" about OJ.

 

Should we (or the courts) show Trump some 'mercy'?

**** NO!

 

If Trump is found guilty of espionage and selling our nation's national security to other countries he should be put against a wall and shot, like Nicolae Ceaușescu.

2,048 × 1,536

 

Not that we're going to be able to have the debate here, but I am of the strong belief that the juries in the Zimmerman and Rittenhouse cases were correct.

Juries don't always get it right, it's true. But this was not one of those cases. The Trump case had to do with extreme bias against a political figure, with the media having stolked up years of non-stop hate.

The OJ Simpson case is a separate discussion. I actually think it could be argued the jury's verdict was understandable, even if you and I don't agree with it.
But additional evidence emerged after the trial was over that cast OJ in a more guilty light.

But even in the OJ Simpson case, bias likely did play a role, because the prosecutor decided to move the venue of the case to downtown Los Angeles, which had a high African American population, thinking it was going to be a guaranteed slam-dunk case, and trying to separate themselves of any accusations of racism or prejudice, not wanting to risk another race riot like the one that had happened just 3 years earlier.