Six far-right suspects held over possible attack on Macron

He wrote that "it is good that Trump is president". Next

 

You saw maybe, a few hundred(at best) people in Charlottesville. Not even 0.1% of the 64 million Trump voters two years ago.

 

Robert Bowers is like many posters on this forum:

"Open you Eyes! It’s the filthy EVIL jews Bringing the Filthy EVIL Muslims into the Country!!"

“Daily Reminder: Diversity means chasing down the last white person.”

 

Whatever helps you guys to sleep at night. Even HRC admitted it wasn't the vast majority of Trump supporters.

 

Rather irrelevant to the point that it's still the alt-right who does that kind of thing. Not Antifa. Yet you right wingers seem to claim Antifa is "so" violent,.. as if it's on par with the alt-right. And it simply is not the case. The alt-right is a heck of a lot more violent. And so it's simply the right wing sweet talking it all with fake news. That Trump is not always in the picture of the alt-right doesn't change the fact that it's still the alt-right who is far more violent. Trump is not doing enough against this, since it keeps on happening.... with his "its violence on both sides". It clearly is not both sides. And with that, he goes along with the right wing sweet talking it all with fake news as if Antifa is just as violent.

 

It is on both sides, antifa has attacked innocent civilians, radical extremist groups have also attacked innocent civilians. The only difference between you so far is a tragic death. But make no mistake, we're simply counting the days on that end. And you're right, the President has not done enough. I believe it's time for us to take Eisenhower-esque steps and mobilized the national guard, and to break up both groups.

 

Negative.

The alt-right killed far more people, including praying Jews, Antifa hasn't.
The alt-right sent bombs all over the place. Antifa has not.
The alt-right tried to kill the French president twice and the Spanish president ones. Antifa does none of that.

So it clearly is fake right wing news down talking what the right does.
Trump does this too. Shows clear ill intent to do more to prevent this.

 

Now you've reached to the point of interjecting American politics into France and Spain. Good one.

Also, in calling the bomber the 'alt-right', you commit the fallacy(knowingly) of saying all Trump voters are alt-right. You don't even know if the bomber frequented alt-right sites.

And yes, AntiFA is the same as the alt-right. I would treat them exactly the same.

 

Not really, because most of them went from the years 70 to 90, when algeria became indenpendant and all those people lost their french nationality.

Where ? I accused leftist to support those policies which is different.

Not really, V.Giscard D'Estaing made only one mandate. Slowly, a new parti which was based mostly on the hostility to immigration started to appear : the FN. In the 70's there were very few foreigners in France, but years after years, the situation became more and more critical and ended to be a large disaster at the end of the 80's. Since 2005 and 2013 we even know that this could end into a civil war.

 

No one said it was the vast majority of Trump supporters. I did not even mention Trump in the post you originally replied to! So I will remind you again : Leftist shout a little bit. Righties send package bombs, massacre Jews in a synagogue, run over people on a march. Yet you say that leftists are violent

 

Good one?
The entire thread is about the alt-right trying to kill Macron, buddy.

I am not committing that fallacy. That bomber is alt-right. It just is.
Being for Trump or not, is totally irrelevant to that. Trump aint the head of the alt-right movement.

 

No, the left is sticking up for Muslim immigrants, not Muslim extremists. Unfortunately, the mostly Muslim beneficiaries of leftwing support are unevenly disposed to rejecting militant Islam.

Not everyone is interested in political warfare.

Yes, overly symplistic. The far left is protecting immigrants from discrimination.

 

Fake

http://eudo-citizenship.eu/NationalDB/docs/FRA Civil Code (on French nationality) (English consolidated version as updated on 04 04 2006).pdf
Every French person who, at the date of its independence, was domiciled on the territory of a State that previously the status of overseas département or territory of the Republic keeps his nationality as of right where no other nationality was granted to him by the law of that State.

And we both know, the had no other nationality before.
Why do I need to keep telling you about your own laws, own government policies etc again and again?

In post 70, you claimed it's due to left, while I proved that it's right wing policies that opened the door.

You previously said 70's. Pushing goalpost tremendously.

 

The people are fighting back. Everyday folks are the ones sharing their neighborhoods and work with immigrants. They don't like what's happening.

 

Rightwing businesses wanted cheap labor.

 

Where no other nationality was granted to him by the law of that state, and they became algerian. We're not in that case.

Mass migration started in the 70's, and it was kept for decades.

Yes, that's why former socialist member declared we should "welcome the jihadists" (use the translater of your browser), that's why the administration under Hollande refused to expulse an illegal tunisian which will end to murder two young girls. That's why the leftists make "refugee welcome" manifestation to "welcome" tons of people we can't even check their background, when we're already on the verge of an ethnic civil war. Left is sticking up mostly for laxism and tolerance toward criminals.
A judge acquited a rapist on an underage girl because "he didn't had the cultural codes". That is leftism, choosing the rapist over the victim, accepting anything at the moment it come from a foreigner.

I don't says it's good,

The far left maybe think they do that, in the end they protect rapists and murderers. The left had always impossible projects which end in disasters with millions of death, like all their "equality" delirium during revolution and communism.

 

I already sourced that they had the French nationality, by absence of not having any other nationality.
In case you forgot:

http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/instree/b1udhr.htm
Article 15
1. Everyone has the right to a nationality.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

I already proved that right wing governments opened the door to immigration in the 1970's,... where you wrongfully accused it was left wing policies.

 

They are powerless without a strong government to support their laws, their traditions and their cultures. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13301/european-court-human-rights-islam

 

All businesses want cheaper labor, however if that was the only criteria more businesses would be investing in Tajikistan.

 

Use the translator? Qu'y a-t-il à traduire?

Society is fractured. The right is split between support for corporations who press for cheap labor and traditionalists who want to protect their communities and way of life. The left is split between disillusioned working class traditionalists, immigrants, and internationslists.

Protecting rapists and murderers pales in comparison to the impact of introducing and reinforcing Islamic culture in society. Unless it assimilate Muslims, or limit their numbers, France will lose its way of life.

 

How do leftists tell the difference between regular Muslims and extremist Muslims? Perhaps they should share this knowledge. However it was leftists who were saying Gitmo should be closed and a Leftist President who released five terrorists to recommence their terrorist activities.

How so?

 

You use the term "alt-right" a lot. What does it mean to you?

 

I am debunking your claim that there hardly is any difference and you're dropping that to go question me about definition?
Deflect much? lol

 

Before any discussion can take place the terms must be be mutually understood and agreed upon. This idea goes back to Socrates, who was never accused of deflection. If you don't know what you're talking about just say so and we can drop the subject.

"This method is named after the Classical Greek philosopher Socrates and is introduced by him in Plato's Theaetetus as midwifery (maieutics) because it is employed to bring out definitions implicit in the interlocutors' beliefs, or to help them further their understanding".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

 

They had the algerian nationality at algerian indenpendance and lost at this moment their french nationality. The human right declaration is only a symbolic document and has no value of law.