So what defines right and left?

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  1. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    would you care to define what you mean?
    Because I cant reply to jelly nailed to à wall.
     
  2. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    Is this the best you can do? Repeat misinformation and propaganda?

    On what grounds do you say they are communist?
    Or just accept you have no argument and move on?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assuming that you live in the U.S., who have you voted for in the last 3 Presidential elections? Who did you vote for Senator and Congressmen in the last 3 elections? If you live elsewhere, the same principle applies in regards to whom you vote for.

    I suspect this will cut through any rhetoric and ultimately provide you with the answer that you claim to seek.

    Maybe your selections are on both sides and you truly are an independent, or maybe you vote for all one side and the reality is that you are in fact that side. The proof is in the pudding. Flowery language means nothing.
     
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  4. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think you know much about the founding of UN, and slinging the word "Marxist" around at every turn is not very persuasive either.
     
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    I produced what I claimed, wasn't good enough for you, so now you need to convince me of something you believe :)

    NO THANKS LMFAO :)
     
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  6. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    BB keeps getting cultural, governmental and economic language mixed up.
    He crams them all together under one emotional term used as à trigger word in the US from the cold war years.
    Not really very insightful .
     
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  7. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    I just did!!
    Except i told you of what i KNOW because I have seen it happen! And you rejected it.
    ISTM you are in this way over your head and trying to shrugging it off as untrue even though you know little of how the Chinese economy works.
    There are universities in Europe which rely on Cjinese students.
    One of my favourite chateaux, Madiran, was sold to some Chinese businessmen a few years ago and the quality has never been the same.
    The proposed new nuclear reactor in the UK is heavily funded by the Chinese.
    What you live is the world 75 years ago.
     
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    I can see your getting a lil spun up, how could I live in a world that long ago when I'm not that old :roflol::roll: If you don't like the information I provided, link something saying those five countries are NOT communist ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    it is incredible that the "superior race" can't seem to run, jump, or box or even attract enough females to breed
    great. i'll be sure to claim my depletion allowance this year.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    If you're business deals in depletable materials, go for it.

    I bet you take every break, credit and deduction you can. Don't you?
     
  11. Pixie

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    The Chinese are developing a new taste for French wines these days. And in addition to buying them by the bottle or the case, the Chinese have also started buying the vineyards where their favourite Bordeaux vintages are produced. Image caption, Chinese investors have bought six estates over the last three years.Oct 27,
    https://www.bbc.com › news › worl...
    Chinese buy their favourite Bordeaux by the vineyard - BBC
    And Google " Chinese buy up Bordeaux vinyards"
     

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    Well maybe your perspective is à tad limited, seeing as you lack the years it takes to step back and view yourself from outside your propaganda.
     
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    Now your going to use insults, booooooooo!
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats a copout. Its clearly not universal that all individuals will want to put the community first. Im not talking about some future utopia where we've finally achieved voluntary communalism, Im talking about the present reality where people are selfish both individually and collectively causing frequent and obvious friction between individual rights and 'the greater good.' In this present reality that we must continue to exist for some time, do you think laws should prioritize: the protection of the rights of the individual, or the protection of the well-being of the community?
     
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    How about "blinded by the left"?
     
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    Correction Catholicism wasn't ever the majority religion of the thirteen colonies.
     
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    It is unfortunate. The policies of each should be the defining factors in differentiating the two. But today, that no longer seems to be the case.
     
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    Yeah, I agree. The problem is that both the "right" and the "left" come in many different flavors. Like even "conservatives," "Marxists," Republicans, and Democrats come in different flavors.
     
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    Left believes we need to tax the wealthy in order to help the less fortunate Americans.
    The Right believes helping less fortunate Americans is a Wealth Transfer which should be stopped.
     
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    Nope, you didn't lacked opportunity to go to Julliard, you lacked talent. People who have talent but lack financial means to study in Julliard lack opportunity.
     
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    Is it not possible to have some views consistent with both sides?
     
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    I disagree. I think the right believes that people are in charge of their own destiny and lot in life and that it isn't an appropriate role for government to subsidize anybody.
     
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    I see you agree with me, the Right does not want to help less fortunate Americans. For the Right helping less fortunate American is Wealth Transfer, the right believes that people are in charge of their own destiny and lot in life and that it isn't an appropriate for government to help the less fortunate Americans.
     
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    No I disagree with you. I made that quite clear. It is not an appropriate role for government to get into who is or is not more or less fortunate. Government should respond to the founders' desire for equality. That means it should treat everyone the same. That it doesn't do that is the single major cause of the monstrosity federal government has become. I couldn't disagree with you more vehemently. Your position is anathema to me. Perhaps that explains things more clearly than I did before.
     
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    OK, my fault, I didn't write it clear, so let me try again to explain the difference between the Left and the Right:
    The Left thinks government need to help less fortunate Americans, the Right thinks government should not help less fortunate Americans.
    Agree?
     
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