So, what does happen if RvW goes down?

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  1. Lucifer

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    So, I want to know from those who support the current GOP anti-abortion legislation driving through so many red states, IF RvW is overturned, what do they think the consequences will be?

    Do you think that the need for abortions will end? How will Conservatives cope with the misery and suffering that will ensue in the coming years as women, particularly young minority women, are forced to carry the ramifications of an abortion ban?

    Do you really think this is going to pay off as more folks wanting to join the GOP?
     
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    The problems with poverty in the US will only get worse. The wealth divide will get worse, and social services already being stretched thin will hurt even more. Large companies that help fuel economic development won't want to invest in communities where their workers will likely not want to go or live in. We'll likely see economic contractions as women lose even more reproductive control (do you really think it will just stop with abortion?). Furthermore we will also see more violence committed against LGBT people, as they are seen as "outside the family structure". We'll also see problems with racism flare up as fears over "sexually overactive minorities" continues.

    In the long run? We will see a decline in the standard of living thanks to this, and even more political violence.
     
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    IF RvW is overturned, unlikely, but IF it is then I know of three things at least that will happen.

    1: Back alley abortions.
    2: A rise in population replacement numbers.
    3: Some states will continue to allow abortions (ex: California, New York), some won't (ex: Oklahoma, Texas).

    Your comment of "especially minority women" is not germane to the subject. Also the only women that "need" an abortion are those who's life is put in danger. Everyone else just "wants" an abortion. There is a difference.
     
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    "The only people who need food are those who are starving. Everyone else just wants starving. There is a difference".
     
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    Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
     
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    False. A person needs food regardless if they are starving or not or else they will die. Learn the difference between "need" and "want".
     
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    In the end what will happen both men and women will have to learn to behave more responsibly and quit treating each other as mobile sex toys.
     
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    Well over half a million abortions are performed every year. A ban on abortion would lead to babies being born that ordinarily would have been aborted. Right now replacement numbers are stagnant at 2.1 children being born per woman. That number would increase due to the ban on abortion that several States would no doubt institute.
     
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    HAPPY belated Birthday! Since based on your post, it appears to have just happened recently.
     
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    I didn't know there was some replacement quotient that we were observing. What is that number we are meant to aim at? And why?
     
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    Look I'm sorry that some people out there think they need food everyday to survive when we know a person can live for several weeks without food. But it's true, if someone eats food because they're hungry then they only want food, not need food.

    If you need some help understanding that a person's needs are complicated, and what constitutes a person's "life" is incredibly complex, and can't be reduced to some random meaning of "life", then don't wade into a discussion about abortion ending.
     
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    Hahahahaha oh that is a good one. Look we have known for the past 100+ years that won't happen. Even when "boys were boys and girls were girls" they were still having underage, and premartial sex with each other. What do you think happened when bicycles became a fad in the late 1800's and early 1900's? Kids shagged up without parental supervision. To say nothing of soldiers failing at keeping it in their pants.
     
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    Why of course no one will ever have an abortion. Birth control will suddenly be 100% effective. Condoms will never break. No one will ever have drunk sex. It will be nirvana. The anti-choices will have solved the abortion issue. That’s how it works right?
     
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    And do you not see that as having an economic impact?
     
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    I don't honestly know. That is why I am asking.

    It just seems to me that many of these culture war issues are not very well thought out with what we already know has happened in the past. Trying to put this genie back in the bottle just doesn't sound like a well-reasoned approach.
     
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    I was being facetious. It’ll be a complete s h i t show if RvW is ever overturned. But the anti-choicers don’t care
     
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    And at far lower rates.
     
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    What will happen?
    People who were pro-life will move on to complaining about single mothers and benefit babies.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Bingo!!!
     
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    Was it really though? Or was the shame so much stronger that such events went underreported?
     
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    Nope ways ahead . yet.
     
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    Depends on the goal. Right now its stagnant. Which is not considered a good thing among economists.
     
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    Are you kidding? No abortion equals more young single mothers having to be on welfare. That’s an economic impact.
     
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    A question was asked, a statement was uttered. I answered it and addressed it. Don't like it? Tough titties. A person needs food to survive and function. Generally speaking a woman does not need an abortion to survive or function. And I pointed out the exception to that rule. Just because you want to complicate it due to a political agenda does not discount anything I said.

    When you boil it all down a woman does not need an abortion except when her life is in danger. Other than that caveat she is able to function and live normally while pregnant. Therefore an abortion is a want. A person needs food to live and function. Period. There is no "if's, and's, or but's" about it.
     
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