Some Pro Athletes do try to make a positive difference

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not what you said. Either way, those who value liberty can never allow ones intentions to be force onto another, regardless of their degree of righteousness. This is settled law and will never change.

    Meanwhile, those who genuinely care about human life are taking action. They adopt, foster, and volunteer their time.
     
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    What? You are mistaken!

    We force our opinions on morality on others, as a society, all the time!!!!

    You know nothing about what those who truly care do!
     
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    We will just have to part ways on force VS deterrents.

    All talk and no action equals no sincere concern. All reasonable people know that.
     
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    Action,meaningful action, would start with a strong moral foundation. Allowing abortion homicide is the opposite.
     
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    Your key word here was "reasonable"...
     
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    If you think “reasonable” means compromising ones morality, there is s good reason we disagree on probably everything!!!!!
     
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    You have no choice but to allow it. You do not have to allow children to live without knowing what it is like to be wanted, cherished, and loved. You choose to turn your back on them. Its called a position of convenience; holding your finger in the air demanding others do what you are not willing to.
     
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    So now a speculative thought of what a child’s future life may be like is legitimate reason to kill the child?
     
  9. Doofenshmirtz

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    No one is arguing for killing children. The reason for abortion is irrelevant.
     
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    That would be where your thinking runs off in a ditch, crashes, and dies a horrible death.

    All homicides are judged in our society on the reason . Well except one glaring irrational exception.
     
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    My thinking happens to be settled law where we live. It is your thinking that is dead in this country. It was killed by liberty. I love this country!
     
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    Nope, allowing an innocent child in utero to be slaughtered at will is hardly liberty!!!!!!!!

    By your logic allowing gun murders at will is freedom!
     
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    No reasonable person would extract that garbage from my posts. One would only connect abortion to murder when they lack the ability to intelligently defend a position where your righteous opinion is forcefully inflicted on another American, depriving her of her liberty. The dance of the sanctimonious may not be graceful, but it is entertaining. You keep dancing, I have to go claim I care about homeless people by insisting they come live with you!
     
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    Hey it is your logic, not mine. Homicide is all about the one committing the homicide’s rights according to your logic. That’s perp tastic!

    No dancing, just logic and reasoning! Try it!
     
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    YUP :) Women ARE at liberty to remove anything from their bodies they wish to :) :) :)
     
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    I get it, you support what the UVVA was passed to protect innocent children from.
     
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    Abortion is the law of the land and there is nothing you can do about it. There are ways you can make a difference, but you are only willing to wear out keyboards, attempting to convince strangers you care about children. You failed to convince anyone here and the best you can do is misrepresent my posts making false claims that I support gun murder. Show me where I justify gun murder...
     
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    That simply isn’t true! I can speak out and make sure the lies that the pro abortion crowd spread are debunked.

    Show me where I said you supported gun murder. I won’t hold my breath, I didn’t!!!

    Your logic however would support allowing gun murder.
     
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    You can hold your breath. On gun murder, you said:

    My logic has to do with people being safe and free in their own bodies. Anyone with basic knowledge of simple logic knows that excludes all murder. You are the only one suggesting that people be forced against their will. As long as your opinion stays on your side of her uterus, we are good.

    Speaking of breathing, isn't that the one thing a child can do that immediately dissolves 100% of your concern for human life? Getting up on a soapbox and speaking out does nothing for these children that will live their life in "the system" and never know the feeling of being wanted, cherished, or loved. Its takes more than wearing a T-shirt to make a difference.

    If you will excuse me, I have to go and claim that I care about animals by insisting that others bring them in their homes and care for them.
     
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    In actuality, anyone with logical sense knows that one intentional homicide has definite similarities to others. Justifying killing just because someone wants to is opening the door wide open to allowing murder from a logical standpoint!
     
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    Then you should have no trouble citing the increase in murders since abortion became legal in 1973.
     
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    Why are you babbling on about irrelevant topics?
    Logically intentional homicide should be illegal, regardless of whether the killer is the child’s mother or not!
     
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    You claimed that justifying abortion opens the door to allowing murder, and you are wrong. You are right about it being irrelevant babble, but that didn't stop you from trying.
     
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    <Rule 3> I actually said nothing of the sort.

    I was discussing logic. And how one rationale is essentially the same as the other.
     
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    You said:

    and you are wrong.

    What do you think about the morning after pill?
     
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