Someone quietly bombs Syria now

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  1. Durandal

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    They've been doing that for over a millennium easily. Seems the current crop is a result, indicating that crazy = successful in the Middle East. The sane and sensible get killed or driven out.

    And speaking of being driven out, I hear Iran and their militants in Syria are talking about driving us out, focusing on fighting our forces present in the north and east and our Kurdish pals. I wonder how that will play out? Trump has loudly, perhaps foolishly announced his intent to get our people out of Syria entirely. Looks like they mean to hasten our departure. Is that how it will go? Then our bestest buddies in the whole wide world will have lots of Iranians and their angry, violent friends situated just across the border with no one (else) left to fight.
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    That's just crazy, you are talking about a genocide of 100 Million ppl like its a game.
     
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    Genocide? Psshh. Why kill them when you can pack them in enclosed, hi-density concentration camps and ghettoes, and then make as if they never existed in the first place?
     
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    We can only hope there really is a hell for all of these warmongers to get justice.
    And God avenges these apostates and their allies.
    Or maybe this is hell and we are the real fallen angels aka demons. Bible does say satan is ruler of this world, well looks like that is true. Those who overcome the evil will be saved and those who join with the father of all lies will be sent to hell? Who knows, not me for sure.
    Anyone who thinks killing for power and profit is rightious is fooling themselves.
     
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    Hey its your story I'm just trying to understand my role in it, Israel is to control a 100 Million hostile ppl in prisons ? that's Israel cherry, the best we can ever hope for ? I don't think you ever spoke to an Israeli :)
     
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    Occultic Sword Dancers and the Global crystal ball worshipers in action.
    Carrying out Hillary plans. But who's plans is Hillary carrying out?


     
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    The Israelis are releasing photo supposedly showing a buildup of forces for an attack against Israel. Not that I take anything they say all that seriously, but certainly the Israelis know the action they took in attacking the T4 base which left some casualties for Iran's revolutionary guards will not go unanswered.

    http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...g-for-direct-attack-from-Iran-in-Syria-550073
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    The Kurds have always been in a crappy position. I feel terrible for them - one of the great travesties of the post-WWI territorial arrangements that were made by the victorious powers was the omission of a Kurdish state/homeland.

    As for the Iranians, I doubt they want a piece of what the Russkies got at Deir Ezzor...
     
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    Well, that would be unsurprising and kind of deserved, wouldn't it? Israel strikes Syria with impunity, it seems.
     
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    :eekeyes::frustrated::handshake::gop::democrat::eekeyes:
     
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    Hm. I wonder if they're weighing their options with respect to attacking Israel and counting on Trump to stay out of it? I imagine general sentiment in this country is not much more supportive of more Middle Eastern warfare than Trump's personal sentiment, and that could easily include a conflict involving Israel. Would Trump turn right around and commit our people to helping Israel if Iran (+Syria) decide to try something yuge against Israel?
     
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    It is a religious ceremony that has occurred every year for centuries. Anyway , this is what someone has said:
    "Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah has tried to ban the practice, following the lead of the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who said the Quran forbids a Muslim from harming himself."
     
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    Israel's whole goal is to maintain chaos and then claim that they are the victims just like you've been doing in this thread
     
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    And more lies from you: As usual Israel was found to have lied. More unusual is that the Israeli president admitted that he lied. Israel seeks more and more land and will never accept any peace
     
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    Israel is in a state of war with Syria since 1949. Iran is an ally of our enemy. End of story.
     
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    It's a long-term plan. Out of these millions, part will be killed, part will be evicted, part will depart on their own, part will even be adopted into zionist society and the rest will be, as I wrote, packed into ever-shrinking, enclosed ghettoes until they get the message.

    You know, like you are doing with Palestinians. Come on, Gilos.
     
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    and that is what Israel has been told she cannot do and possibly why there was a supposed need to take action on an apparent chemical attack when they are apparently somewhat common.

    I gave you the wrong link before and I have been having a re read of the article.

    I think this is the pertinent part
    Feb 18th 2018
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/02/18/syria-putin-makes-offer-israel-will-israel-refuse/

    So if I have got this right the issue is not that Israel was genuinely in any danger. It is that Israel is unable to handle the reality that she is no longer the sole or main power in the middle east. Israel has always managed to control every situation with force and this frankly might be something that might actually get Israel to think of talking, of making concessions. Something which Israel finds very hard. Worth WW3 to you? I think it is time Israel understood that if she wants to survive in this world, she like everyone else cannot always get her own way and must learn to compromise and I do not know if Israel can do that.
     
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    They're weighing their options, but they would be foolish and reckless to assume that Trump is going to stay out of it. Even if the U.S. did not respond militarily it could respond in other ways that are potentially more harmful to the Iranian regime

    Unfortunately for the Islamofascists in Iran, they really don't have any good options. However, it's times like these - when there are economic and/or other domestic problems - that illegitimate thug regimes such as the one in Tehran are most likely to stir **** up abroad to keep the people distracted from what's going on at home.

    If they tried something yuge I expect that his administration would respond in kind.

    This brings us back to Vlad the Invader - I suspect that he would strongly advise against such a move since it would not serve Russia's interests.
     
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    I don't agree with some of what is in that article. The part I disagree is the assumption that Russia is really going to be able or willing to limit Israel's self-anointed role as master of the skies over neighboring countries. I don't see Putin's warning in that light. Putin was basically trying to quiet down an escalating situation where Iran was clearly signalling that it will retaliate for Israel's bombing of the T4 airbase and with Israel saying they would basically kill Assad in retaliation. With those warning against Assad, Assad needed Russia to stand by him and got the Russians to make that call. But when push comes to shove, I don't see the Russians doing anything worthwhile either.

    Israel basically wants to avoid the Syrian civil war ending in Assad's favor at all costs -- and would love to find an excuse to drag that civil war. While their "security" might not be threatened as such, they don't want to see a stable Syria which is allied to Iran and which can (in the longer run) cause them to have to worry about their northern border. It is the opposite for Iran: to have any semblance of a balance of power in the region, which is what would ultimately limit Israel's lawless behavior, a stable Syria allied to Iran and Hezbollah is critical. The Russians, while having a temporary positive role in this equation, are in the long run a potential hindrance because they have a complicated relationship with Israel and have never given up the idea of finding a "partnership with the west". No matter that the west has no interest in a real partnership with them.

    At the end of the day, I see Israel testing the boundaries and Russia ending up putting pressure on the only place it feels it has real leverage, namely on Assad. That means the opposite of what that piece implies. That is particularly true since the limited nature of the US strike against Syria gives the Russians an out or an excuse to eventually turn around and adopt the same posture as before. That posture is not helpful and can be summed up as the Russians looking for a deal with someone. A deal which gives them Syria at Iran's expense. I had mentioned that the Russians might no longer be under such illusions, but in reflection, that is wishful thinking on my part.

    The situation in Syria is like a high stakes poker game. The Israelis have their vulnerabilities and don't really want a real shooting war that will be costly to them in many ways. But they still have the stronger hand and are dead set to get as much from it as they can. And what they really want is what they say: they want Iran out of Syria and Assad out of the axis of resistance. And they also want Hezbollah to be eventually taken out. And they want Iran to be taken out too. When that happens, they feel there isn't any serious challenger for them to worry about. At some point Iran has to either fold or raise the ante and see if Israel is really willing to pay the price for their agendas? If they are, the region blows up into pieces. If not, overtime, a balance of power can emerge that isn't perfect but better than what we have now.
     
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    Yeah, wierd right? It is almost like it is a war zone with half a dozen countries all involved ..... oh wait
     
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    Hahaha
     
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    Yes but they keep doing it. Isnt it interesting that even the country they hated the most, S. Arabia, for better or worse has started revolutionary social reforms but these Shiite extremists are still practicing sick rituals and don't even seem giving them up any time soon??
     
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    Exactly means there are 2 reasons, not "no reason"
     
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    have you been living under a rock, Hezbollah exists to destroy Israel

    http://www.lebanonrenaissance.org/assets/Uploads/15-The-New-Hezbollah-Manifesto-Nov09.pdf
     
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    No if that was the reason there would have been many more than just 100 missiles
     

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