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I see no problem with what the SA government is going to do.
Sure, productivity will dip. So what. People learn from mistakes.
People may make mistakes and learn.

 

They already got affirmative action laws in companies for quiet some time. And this is their latest move. So don't you go think this is the first time they are turning back the time against apartheid.

 

The tragedy was apartheid.

What we see today should be no surprise at all. It's the logical outfall of what WE helped maintain.

Why would black Africans accept the ideas of those who helped to subjugate them for so long, who denied them the education and office needed to learn to govern, who stole their land, who killed their leaders, who created a system that denied them any form of justice?

WE helped train them in the methods of apartheid.

Simply overthrowing the government is not something that would suddenly retrain them in some other system. Nor would it suddenly cause them to once again accept our ideas.

 

Apartheid totally ended in South Africa over 24 years ago. But, anyone can use any excuse for anything they are trying to promote, including organized THEFT of property from South African White citizens. Nothing will stop it now. And the organized theft and other crime is only the beginning....

R.I.P., White South Africans....

 

So? No need to act like this was 1400-something. Everybody age 30 and above witnessed first hand how this all was. Including the current government who is setting it straight.

 

Twenty four years is not NEARLY enough to cause a total change in the rules of government.

The effects of Apartheid did NOT end at the fall of the white government.

You bemoan the theft of property - and so should everyone, I suppose. But, that's hardly the issue here.

The real issue is that an entire country has no experience in what a good government would even look like.

You can not POSSIBLY think that it wasn't a highly likely outcome given the conditioning we helped give to every black resident of that entire nation.

 

A question - why hasn't Sth Africa learned from Zimbabwe?
If you recall Zimbabwe descended into tribal violence, dictatorship,
economic collapse and mass migration to Sth Africa.

 

wtf?

 

We can thank the leftwing and the Democratic Party for this, endlessly demanding boycotts against S. Africa.

 

So, you were in favor of apartheid?

 

It's not about apartheid - don't live in the past.
It's about whether Sth Africa will become another Veneuzela
or Zimbabwe today - and what human suffering can we expect.

 

I'm sure by Barack Obama the community organizer recent visit to South Africa anarchy is just around the corner.

The only thing Obama has ever been good at has been agitating, causing trouble and dividing society because that's what community organizers do by trade.

 

NO.

It was YOU who specified historic blame for this, laying it on Dems for wanting to send a strong message to SAfrica concerning Apartheid.

You're trying for a cheap hit and run and I want to know the answer to my question:

Were you in favor of apartheid?

 

The former President of the United States has a strong, positive message for SAfrica and other nations.

That message is the promise of a better life under democracy and the rule of law.

I really don't know any world leader who could deliver that more effectively.

 

Obama supported the communist terrorist ANC during the 1980's.

The ANC was financed by the USSR and trained by Gaddafi in Libya and then waged a war of terrorism against the South African government.

It was just one battle of the Cold War and we lost that Cold War battle, the Soviet Union won.

If you remember during the 1980's that the Reagan administration, the military brass and half of Congress opposed putting sanctions on South Africa but the liberal Democrats since 1973 always sided with the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

The liberals being useful idiots of the Kremlin got their sanctions... apartheid came to an end and the worse fears became a reality.
The ANC came into political power, corruption, crime the rape capital of the world basically South Africa became a complete basket case that it is today.

 

LOL!!

The US pumped the idea of a USSR/ANC connection, but Mandela (heart of the ANC) was absolutely NOT a communist.

Yes, Dems were interested in opposing apartheid.

After Mandela's retirement, the ANC went to hell. There simply wasn't a leader with any real understanding who could energize the nation behind him in a positive direction.

Basically, the legacy of apartheid couldn't be overcome by Mandela and his followers once he was gone.

I have NO idea why that should be a surprise to anyone.

 

You are replying to the wrong person.
No. I never approved of apartheid.
I also didn't approve of:
ANC links to the Communist Party
the "necklacing" of blacks by other blacks
the tribal hatreds
the stone-age mentality of many African blacks
the indifference to the ideas of Western liberal democracies
the misunderstanding of how modern economies operate
the exploitation of blacks by Western Marxist liberals
the inability to see what was going wrong in other African nations that had independence.
and so on.

 

Mandela used the USSR to finance his acts of terrorism but Mandela was a socialist not a true communist.
Mandela and his ANC terrorist fought a Cold War proxy war for the Soviets.

But since the ANC waged a war of terrorism mostly murdering other black South Africans and ANC soldiers didn't wear uniforms and never engaged the South African military on the battlefield it isn't listed as proxy war like the Bush War in Rhodesia was.

So Nelson Mandela and the ANC was declared a terrorist organization just like Al Qaeda is today.

It was actually PM Margaret Thatcher who brought an end to apartheid.

It was President Reagan along with President G.H. Bush (41) who convince the South Africa to dismantle their nuclear weapons so they don't fall into the hands with the terrorist ANC socialist government that would likely be coming into power.

These were South Africa's nuclear bombs during the 1980's.



South Africa's nuclear weapons delivery platforms



Above — a South African Canberra bomber. At top — a South African Buccaneer bomber in 1980.


How South Africa Voluntarily Gave Up Its Nuclear Weapons
The regime changed...South Africa went from being a democratic country to a corrupt socialist country

The Republic of South Africa is the only country in the world to build a nuclear weapons program, then unbuild that program after domestic and international conditions changed.

Why did South Africa decide to build nukes, how did it build them and why did it decide to give them up? The answers are largely idiosyncratic, although they may hold some lessons for the future of nuclear weapons development on the Korean Peninsula and elsewhere.

South Africa sought nuclear weapons for familiar reasons.

Although it enjoyed presumptive conventional dominance over any likely regional opponent, Pretoria worried that the advantage might erode over time. The South African government also appreciated that widespread disdain for its apartheid system might prevent Western countries — including the United States — from coming to its aid in any serious confrontation against the Soviet Union or its allies.

nuclear weapons would provide not only a direct way of confronting a military attack against South Africa, but also a means of leveraging Western diplomatic and military support during a crisis.

South Africa could mine the requisite uranium on its own territory, and enrich it in domestic facilities. With a modern industrial economy and access to technologically sophisticated institutions of learning and research in the United States and Europe, South Africa could easily develop the technical expertise needed to build a weapon.

Already the target of harsh international disdain for its domestic institutions, the South African government did not worry overmuch about how the pursuit of nuclear weapons might make it into an international pariah.

Overall, South Africa constructed six uranium gun fission weapons similar in nature to the Little Boy weapon dropped on Hiroshima. The devices were too large to fit onto any existing South African missiles, and consequently would have been delivered by bombers such as the English Electric Canberra or the Blackburn Buccaneer.

South Africa explored the possibility of building or acquiring ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons, although this would have required a substantial upgrade of the devices themselves...
https://warisboring.com/south-africa/

 

Mandela was a Socialist.
If so then Google "Venezuela News" and see how a typical Socialist
nation treats its own citizens.

 

Mandela was also a murdering terrorist and his wife Minnie was even worse, more on the level as a black MS-13 gang banger.
Instead of a machete they used tires and a Zippo lighter.




And the terrorism under the ANC socialist government in South Africa continues today.

Necklacing Brings Mob Terror to South African Slums


The lack of police protection and action against crime is causing a resurgence of mob rule in South African slums. In South African slums the rates of robbery, rape and murder are among the highest in the world.

In the township of Khayelitsha there has been a growing number of mob vigilante slayings known as necklacing. Victims have a car tire shoved over their shoulders and gasoline poured into the tire. The tire is then ignited, causing a gruesome and cruel death.

Accused of theft, Ncedile Gigi and two others were necklaced in March by a mob that was fed up with poor police practices. The heat from the flames fused Gigi’s body with that of another, and the charred remains were left on a sandy patch of ground where children normally play soccer—a macabre warning to others and a grim reminder of the social problems that plague Africa’s biggest and most developed economy.

For South Africans, the violence brings back to the foreground the days of apartheid when suspected collaborators of the white minority government were executed by necklace...
https://www.thetrumpet.com/9632-necklacing-brings-mob-terror-to-south-african-slums

 

Fascist apartheid ended but the DAMAGE caused by apartheid still needs to be FIXED.

Too bad that racist white supremacist nazis can't admit to the CRIMES that were committed by the apartheid regime.

 

Zimbabwe was already a dictatorship where SA is not.
Zimbabwe's economy is completely different compared to SA.
Their agriculture is 18% part of their GDP.
SA agriculture plays a absolute tiny part.

So there is nothing to learn.

 

Ever heard of the "Precautionary Principle" ?
Usually used by the Left to attack the Right, but never applied
to Left wing beliefs.
Rhodesia was pretty well where SA is today, democratically speaking.
And yes, agriculture is small in SA, but the violence against whites is
not much different. And these black thugs won't stop at white farms,
will they?
A better example is Venezuela today.
Watch the slow rot setting in with the SA Rand vs US dollar. This is
an early sign.

 

You guys didn't worry about Angola, Uganda, the Congo etc. did you?
Blacks killing blacks wasn't your concern. Dutch settlers setting up a
black and white state was something to vent your righteous indignation
over.
What was the REAL issue?
Was it "white"
Was it "Western"
Was it "Capitalism"?
Yes.

Certainly wasn't black empowerment.

 

Yeah, and I still want those dirty, marauding Italians to own-up to the "CRIMES" committed by the Roman Empire against my ancestors in Germania!

I'm going to lodge a protest with the Italian Embassy and demand that I be given a villa in Tuscany as a reparation. What d'ya think? If I get it, I'll invite you over and we can sit out on the veranda, drink Barbaresco until we fall into the Koi pool, and laugh our asses off at how gullible people are when challenged by thieving parasites who will do anything to steal, rob, and get 'free stuff'.