Spirituality without God

well, as I have just proven, delusional actually

 

I tithe to the Church and pray to God. Just because I don't believe in God doesn't invalidate the practice . . . not for me, anyway. With others, their mileage may vary.

 

No, your comment was retarded. I proved you experience numbers all day every day. You deflected to some stupidity about proving god exists.

 

Thats cognitive dissonance, I highly recommend seeing someone about it before it develops into a full blown delusional psychosis, like certain people we know and love.

 

Nah; I'm just not as intellectually limited as some people.

 

more rahl logic I suppose?

 

clearly you are in 20,000 leagues over your head.
you do not experience the number
you experience the material objects that you associate to the invisible physically nonexistent number.
If you simply blurt out here is one, the person beside you says one what!
Because you failed to associate it with anything.
Its good to see you dont want to improve your credibility out here.
makes people like me look like the Gods of genius!

 

No, you experience the number.

I’m quite certain I and everyone else knows you look like something else entirely.

 

See Gatewood, this is the course you are on

I'd hate to see that happen to you.

 

Okay, I posted that thoughts are energy. Prove how this isn’t the case.

 

Spirituality outside of Christ and the Bible is occultism.

 

So says your dogma.

 

Oh, the IRONY!

 

Irrelevant since the OP is NOT advocating occultism.

 

Scientifically speaking, "1" is a numeral, a symbol representing an individual number.

Numbers describe quantitative data. An apple is described by the number 1 when the required quantitative data is about apples. An apple tree is described by the number 1 when the required quantitative data is about apple trees.

Simply put, numbers are symbols used to describe aspects of physical reality. Just like the word "hammer" is a symbol used to describe a category of specific objects. One can't throw the word "hammer" at another poster's head (which doesn't prevent one from wishing it ), but hammers really exist, as do measurable quantities of material objects.

 

WOW! Thanks for that, who would have guessed '1' is a symbol for something imagined that can represent reality? Surely not me. Hey thats the same thing theists do! Great captain obvious job there, nice of you to prove that theists use a system nearly identical to math. If its acceptable for math it must be acceptable for theists.

Apparently the explanation I posted earlier was a bit too complicated for you?

 

@Kokomojojo the number of errors in your posts is impressive. I'll quote selectively to keep this post as short and clear as possible, hope you don't mind.

Nope.

Please enlighten me, what part of "physical reality" is hard to understand?

Numbers are not symbols for something imagined. Quantitative data about objects in physical reality is not "something imagined". The number of cars passing right now on a road near you is not "something imagined" (one could try to verify that statement by jumping in front of those cars...). The prices of goods in a store are not "something imagined". The number of fingers typing a post on a keyboard is not "something imagined".

Numerals can be used to count imaginary objects - like the seven dwarfs in Snow White - but even this kind of data has a material support in the physical reality. The material support for all imagined stuff is, of course, the brain.

This is a non sequitur.

We are at last back on topic, sort of. Very different people would sometimes think and react in very similar ways, because the brain - the material support for thoughts and reactions - is wired the same for all humans. Spirituality doesn't begin with theists, and doesn't end with atheists. The use of numbers doesn't begin with atheists, and doesn't end with theists. Of course there are similarities. However similarity is not - and does not imply - identity.

We experience the impact the quantitative data described by numbers has on our lives. Like getting fat when eating a five-course fat rich meal every day, three times a day.

Please explain the bolded statement.

 

this is meaningless. everything is matter/energy.

 

@Pisa the number of your errors keeps me entertained.

Please enlighten me, what part of nonphysical reality is impossible for you to understand?
Further enlighten us how the process of association works, clearly you do not know?

Maybe you want to read my actual posts instead of simply making **** up to create a strawman argument.

not withstanding

Spiritual atheist?
Please prove spirituality exists.

matter and energy are not the same, though energy can be extracted from matter.

 

I also find myself disconnected from many atheists (or anti-theists) because I don’t share their resentment towards religion. But I’m very critical against fundamentalism which this sector of people share some overlap, I wouldn’t say I find them as intolerable as Bible literalists, but I don’t find these types of absolutist views constructive.

Many faith leaders of all religious institutions participated in perversions. It is dangerous when followers of these religions ignore the problems in their own institutions.

It is about spirituality without God, as it says. Typically I find a strong debate between the religious and atheists about magic deities, not so often do I hear about atheistic spirituality.

I can relate to this, especially when you have important figures in your life that had a deep religious belief that have passed on. Joining their Church for a Sunday can help you feel a bit closer to them for a time, offering a tribute in their memory.

 

They arent. but its the only way one can debate when dealing with spinsters and their intellectual dishonesty.

That is why 'Neoatheists' today are considered extremists, they leave a trail of destruction in their path.

Yeh I have to laugh about that they both deny and accept the supernatural at the same time.

spiritual

1. 1.
   relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul <---[invisible imaginary nonfactual unprovable stuff] as opposed to material or physical ['provable'] things.
   "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare"
   
   Similar:
   nonmaterial psychic psychical incorporeal intangible otherworldly unworldly
   ethereal transcendent mystic mystical immaterial
2. 2.
   relating to religion or religious belief.
   "the tribe's spiritual leader"
   
   https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=spiritual
   
   neoatheists have a soul and believe in the supernatural now! Nthing like jumping from the fire to a bigger fire.

Understandable that they miss the person who helped form the things they hold sacred, their religion.

 

Trying to fit in a reading comprehension fail on every page? Please learn how dictionaries actually work instead of resorting to functionally illiterate Kokomojojoism. Just because someone uses a word does not mean that they are using every cherry-picked sub-definition from your favorite dictionaries. I know children who have learned this. This isn't a difficult concept.

 

the stupidity you post is sometimes painful to read. matter and energy are interchangeable. they are the same thing.

 

doesnt make them the same thing!

What are you talking about? rahl taught me how to read a dictionary, I dont see you badgering rahl why discriminate against me?

Are you saying this is not the definition of spiritual?

spiritual

1. 1.
   relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul <---[invisible imaginary nonfactual unprovable stuff] as opposed to material or physical ['provable'] things.
   "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare"
   
   Similar:
   nonmaterial psychic psychical incorporeal intangible otherworldly unworldly
   ethereal transcendent mystic mystical immaterial
2. 2.
   relating to religion or religious belief.
   "the tribe's spiritual leader"
   SOURCE

Wait, I get it, you have been converted to the atheism is a religion camp!

Wait till rahl finds out!

 

I don’t see it.