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  1. Uber Lib

    Uber Lib New Member

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    if you treated me the way you want them treated with such vitriolic ignorance and violence you'd find their ways far preferable to my reactions to such pitiful attitudes

    and across the globe, get on board or be left further behind

    didn't you give W and dick Cheney all your luv?
     
  2. Crossedtoes

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    Hmm.. nope. America is a country that was founded on individual rights. Those are ideas worth fighting for. The rebels in Syria... well, who knows what they're fighting for but it isn't individual rights.

    "Where liberty lies, there is my country." - Ben Franklin

    That DOES imply that you don't have to fight if your geographic location doesn't happen to be where liberty lies.
     
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    True! I'm for Bernie Sanders, but I believe in HATE! Like I HATE the Tea Party, would laugh if they died! HAPPILY! If you don't feel HATE, you never really FIGHT! And that's why the left is losing in America, because it's populated with pusssies.
     
  4. TheAngryLiberal

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    Well! when they come over here to stay temporarily, they need to understand that they are GUESTS! and have to conform to the laws of our land and not look and treat Women here the same way Women were treated where they came from. If they can't do that, then they are not welcome and if they do assault a Woman here, they're Castrated and sent back to where they came from. Easy fix for not being able to control your Religious and sexual urges.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And we had to fight the strongest military on the planet with farmers to establish that country yet these people cannot take on some rebels and come whining here?

    Fricken pathetic!
     
  6. Uber Lib

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    you truly exhibit a severe lack of reality based info and concern for those suffering, feel good?
     
  7. Alwayssa

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    We are not $200 trillion in the whole. It is more like $12 trillion if you only count the T notes, bills, and bonds and not the IOU's. That being said, you do realize Trump is in an industry that is highly leveraged, which means a lot of debt.
     
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    Well! I'm assuming you are a Man and really in no danger of being sexually assaulted by these Muslim scumbags, but maybe you should go and chat with some of these Women who have been victims of Muslim immigrants raping them and see what their opinion is of allowing unvetted and unrestricted young male muslim radicals moving into their country. People like you are usually ignorant of criminals until they become a victim themselves and then they have a change of heart. I want this Muslim problem taken care of, before a Woman in my family is assaulted, because if that happens and it turns out to be a Muslim, he'd better hope the authorities get to him before I do, because he won't be getting his 72 virgins when I'm finished with him
     
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    You let refugees distract you from the billionaires who have bought our country. That is the real issue.
     
  10. Alwayssa

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    I have been around the Muslim culture in Asia and it is nothing like what you described at all. Whether it is Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, or China, for the most part, Muslims, both men and women, are hard working, honest, intelligent, tolerant, family oriented, and other quality attributes. Even in the Philippines, most Muslims are not fans of Abu Sayyaf and report on their activities with the PNP. Trying to generalize a small minority is like trying to generalize all expats based on the actions of just one.
     
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    I'm not talking Asia, I'm talking about what's been going on in Norway, Sweden, Germany, France and other western cultures where Muslim men have a difficult time adapting to Western culture. If a Western woman is dressed in clothing that would be deemed un-acceptable in the Middle East, they are targets for sexual assault
     
  12. Uber Lib

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    crime is crime, you're victimizing masses of innocents for nothing, focus on the crims
     
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    Awwww, I take it SF has crashed. Or is it www.aryannation.com these days? Orrrrr are you just bored and trolling? The bridge called, the Billy goats miss you.....at least someone does.
    :yawn:
     
  14. Alwayssa

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    Nothing in the article states $200 trillion as the actual debt. It states some other things about why the debt was downgraded including if, and if is a big word, we spent all the money based on all the promises politicians have given us given the current and proposed tax structure. But that does not mean we are actually in $200 trillion debt right now.
     
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    Well! a large majority of Muslims look the other way, when radicals within their religion commit these atrocities, they haven't done a good job of policing themselves, which makes the innocent not completely innocent, so YES! I don't like Islam
     
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    Whether a Muslim lives in Singapore, United States, United Kingdom of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, their religion is not based on rapping and plundering. You have stated you hated a religion because of the acts of a few individuals. Deal with the individuals who are accused of the misdeed, the violation, and no more. Stop generalizing a religion you know absolutely nothing about.
     
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    I never claimed we were $200 trillion in debt right now. I claimed we were $200 trillion in the hole based on promises we've made and based upon projected tax revenues, which is exactly what the article states.

    Even if millenials aren't debt slaves, they will have to pay off the debt to a large extent but in particular-- there will be people planning on having Social Security and Medicare when they get old and it won't be there for them. It may not technically be debt, but it's just as bad and impoverishing.

    Point is, what the federal government is doing is criminal and Bernie wants to make more promises, wants more people to depend on Social Security and the state as a whole for things when it simply can't cover it.
     
  18. Uber Lib

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    many so called Americans celebrate the worst in humanity daily, do you really have a point other than raging your irrational fears and hate? the vast amount of Muslim refugees are wonderful people that we all should welcome instead of turning them into exactly what you fear, your attitude is the problem
     
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    Why does everyone assume I'm a Trump supporter? I hate Trump. Stop trying to deflect your progressive politician's massive, massive shortcomings by citing the child running for President. I know the state of affairs is awful, you don't have to remind me.

    I also cited unfunded liabilities, not the debt. That's still stuff we have to cover. Either that, or we tell people we have their retirement covered and when it comes time for them to get their pension, we'll have to give them a big "F you" or run into hyperinflation.
     
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    All politicians are making promises that they cannot keep. Do you really think that a flat tax of 10% and a tax return on a post card is going to generate the revenue that is currently being received today? Of course not. But that is the carrot being dangled to all those people who want "lower taxes" so they can keep "more of their money" and still expect all those roads, bridges, interstate highways, and everything else being free to use. Talk about being suckered in like "a monkey with their hand caught in the jar while trying to grab something shiny." (Reference of the monkey is to the TV mini series called Shaka).
     
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    Come! on, Norway is having to offer classes to Muslim men to teach them that it's wrong to rape Women, when they should just know that to begin with

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/20/r...asses-to-teach-muslim-immigrants-not-to-rape/
     
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    Well, for starters, I am not a Trump fan when it comes to his presidential campaign.

    Second, SS and Medicare are not unfunded liabilities, not according to government accounting rules and standards. It is a pay as you go system. Supreme Court has already rules that paying taxes into the system is not a guarantee of the benefit received. Both Medicare and SS are debt drivers of our budget along with interest and defense spending, especially in the procurement process. Most of the problems can be solved if politicians on both sides stop playing the "what's in it for my district" game.

    I am not a Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton fan either. Bernie Sanders is unelectable while Hilary has a legitimacy problem with those blasted emails. Even though the investigation is still ongoing, she should not be running because of the investigation. I am not sure if she violated law or not, but the FBI needs to do its job without political interference from both sides.

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    You are talking about different cultures here, not religion.
     
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    Exactly! Muslim men feel they have the right to treat western women in Europe the same way they do in the Middle East, a bunch of European women running around the beach in bikinis instead of Burka's drives them crazy.
     
  24. Crossedtoes

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    I want the state to do fewer things and tax less. I don't want them to maintain control of things and tax less. In order to earn a profit and continue providing a service, a private entrepreneur has to convince someone, somewhere that what he's offering is worth more than the dollars in that other person's pocket. In order to create this thing of value, he must take cheaper inputs than what he's selling it for. So to make money, an entrepreneur has to take cheaper inputs, transform them in some way, and create something that people value more than those inputs. That's how a market economy trends toward resources being put to their highest valued use, at least in terms of the subjective preferences to consumers. The ones who make the most money have most effectively done this.

    Conversely, the government charges what it will for roads, bridges, interstate highways, etc. and the rest of us can stick it. We can't say no. There may be arguments to support this sort of system in a very limited number of cases, but generally we should attempt to minimize those cases and wrestle these resources back from the hands of the state so that they might be put to a better use in the wealth-producing market economy.
     
  25. Uber Lib

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    not everybody in any crowd is going to be your friend, stop with the over generalization ignorance
     
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