Suggestion for compromise gun legislation

He just showed you to be ignorant about the subject. Please stop making statements on subjects you know nothing about. This isn't TV we're talking about, it's real life. And in real life, silencers don't silence guns to a mere pfft sound. Most silencers reduce the report by maybe 30 db, which makes it so a 9mm pistol shot is about 130 db. For a comparison, 130 db is about like a jackhammer or corded power drill, or a personal alarm siren.


http://www.gunsandammo.com/tactical/silence-is-golden-sig-sauer-silencer-review/
https://www.vigilantpps.com/pages/how-loud-is-130db

 

When did I make any such claims? You gun nuts are focused on tv.....I never mentioned it. They are criminal tools

 

Actually, they have a purpose in target shooting--in fact, in some European countries, certain gun ranges require the use of suppressors (the technical name for silencers). Why? Less noise pollution.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/5/405370/-

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Just his knee-jerk reactions. He needs to do some research before spouting off.

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Yes, it was a Depression era attempt to stop a specific crime--poaching.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/5/405370/-

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Not very practical. Suppressors, practically speaking, have to be specific for a single caliber, and mounting.

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You missed the point of the example, but then again, it's science, and I don't expect you to understand it. I'll type slow so you can understand the point.

The point is that a leafblower is not a particularly quiet instrument, yet they are quieter than a typical suppressed pistol. Suppressors don't totally silence a gun like they do on TV. Primarily they quiet a gun enough so that you can shoot them without hearing protection.

 

Excuse me but it was the Republicans that decide to "Oppose Anything Obama" especially if it was good for America because the Republicans didn't want a black president to succeed at anything. Since 2009 when the Senate Democrats were asking Republicans to get involved in the creation of the PPACA because it was based upon previous Republican and conservative proposals the Republicans said "Hell no" and in the years following the President reached out to the Congressional Republicans repeatedly and they said "Hell no" so don't be blaming the Democrats because it was the Republicans that refused to end their "Oppose Anything Obama" obstructionism in Congress.

The Republicans even set a new standard for partisan obstructionism when, for the first time in American history, they refused on purely partisan grounds to even review a Supreme Court Justice nomination.

By the way the Republicans don't want a "conservative justice" that renders decisions based upon the Constitution and "original intent" but instead they want a Republican Supreme Court justice that renders decisions based upon the original White (WASP) Male Supremacist government in the United States that violated the Constitution and the "original intent" of the founders.

For example a Supreme Court that based it's decision on "original intent" and the US Constitution would strike down our immigration laws because the Constitution doesn't grant Congress the authority to regulate immigration intentionally because the founders opposed immigration restriction based upon the Right of Liberty.

Additionally, based upon Article I and the 17th Amendment that both enumerate that members of Congress are to be elected by the "People" and not just the "citizens" of the United States all of the laws prohibiting non-citizens from voting would be struck down as unconstitutional. Jefferson clearly established that the "governed" granted the powers of government and the permanent resident non-citizen is just as much a part of the "governed" as the permanent resident citizen. But Republicans don't want the non-citizens to vote because most aren't WASP's and Republicans are all about White (WASP Male) Supremacy these days. That's why the KKK endorsed Donald Trump.

The last thing Republicans want is for the Supreme Court to actually rule based upon enumeration in the Constitution and the "original intent" of the founders because Republicans oppose BOTH.

 

https://silencerco.com/how-do-silencers-work/

Even a .22 rifle only has it's sound suppressed to 116 dB, and that's as quiet as a siren. The important thing to know about the decibel sound scale, and you may already know this, is that the sound scale is logarithmic.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/question124.htm

http://www.noisehelp.com/decibel-scale.html

 

One of the biggest advantages to silencers is safety, and not just for your ears. It's much easier to get people's attention, and to train them in proper firearm usage, when there aren't loud POPS and BANGS going off intermittently.

 

This would be relevant if the GOP made some claim about working with Obama and the Democrats after the 2008 election.
They did not, and so it is not.

 

So in other words, in real life, there is no evidence that suppressors are often used in crime.

 

And the only reason you could possibly believe that is from TV. There is no other explanation. If there is, you would have presented it.

 

There are differences in requirements for driver training/licensing, yet we let licensed drivers from one state drive in all states. Same with marriage.

 

You don't get the point of my post. Vegas fell for it, though. My point is that while liberals talk big about wanting compromise, they won't really compromise. UBC (by which I mean extending NICS so that non-FFL holders can use it) isn't a big deal, and I can live with it. I would actually feel better about selling guns privately to someone I don't know, if I had that ability.

 

So the federal government regulated them based on tv? Have you taken crazy pills? Lol

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I offered a compromise and then a compromise of that compromise and both were rejected. You don't want an inch....you want a mile

 

Yea.... all that.... except the part you left out about Obama owning both houses for the first two years.

 

There is no real need to not regulate them. Get some ear plugs

 

They did it because they knew it could pass because Americas only knowledge of suppressors was what they have seen on TV. It wasn't based on any problem with them. There were no rash of deaths relating to Suppressors.
The same as going after AR's, there is no basis for it. They just think that they can get Americans to accept it because after all "military weapons" don't belong in civilian hands. You know the stats of rifle deaths compared to handgun deaths, but it is the rifle they target.
They will regulate or ban anything that has to do with guns, that they can make palatable to the citizens.

 

And you can't accept any compromise. I am starting to believe they are right. I have always been against gun bans but maybe you just have to go after everything to get anything. You have opened my eyes

 

Earplugs are not practical for hunting.

 

Or safe.

 

People have hunted for centuries without them

 

It's about time you realize reality. No gun control outside of a total ban will be effective at reducing gun violence stats. We have been telling you this over and over.
If the 2A could be repealed and IF the total ban could be implemented, there is a complete other set of circumstances involved to make it happen and that could take decades or longer.

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And for centuries people didn't realize the long term hearing damage they were subject to.

 

Ok. You win. I am now for magazine limits, bans on weapons and gun free zones. The only way to get anything from people that won't compromise is to go after everything

 

It's cute that you think we didn't already know you're a gun banner.

No, there will be no "compromise" of our protected Constitutional rights.

Since gun control laws do nothing against criminals, we gain nothing by what you call a "compromise".

 

Now you see the light! These gun control measures that you point out won't work, there fore the progressives will continue pushing for more regulation until all that is left is a complete ban. This is the sole reason that pro 2A people won't compromise.... because there is no end. Thank for understanding our point all along!

 

Thankfully you do not speak for the American people. Lol

 

Now we're really scared.

Maybe Ron will let you borrow his badge and you can come after us.