Sunny Hostin of "The View" believes she should still get reparations after it was revealed...

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Should Sunny Hostin get reparations

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  1. Farnsworth

    Farnsworth Well-Known Member

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    The slave trade in Africa was extensive, so most blacks will have been slave owners at some point in the past; the ones sold to the western hemisphere trade were merely former slave owners defeated by other tribes and sold themselves as war captives. Blacks are historically fine with slavery, it's just that only in the U.S. do they bother with these con games and scams; lots of gullible white people with low intelligence can be made to feel guilty about stuff they had nothing to do with and willing to hand over lots of other peoples' money to make themselves feel better, and lots of dishonest hypocritical black racists who will take the money and laugh.
     
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    Yeah, that was on the mother's side, right? On the father's side the 3rd great grandfather was a slave.

    That aside, let's look at this logically without racist partisanship . Attempting monetary payout reparations would be a bureaucratic nightmare.
    After Abolition 13% of the US population, African Americans, were in poverty and no attempt at reparations has ever been tried, but just the opposite. For 100 years they have been prevented from earning higher degrees, house loans, voting, prevented from joining unions, segregated, subjected to systemic racism, many Black schools got 1/10 the resources.....the message was, being Black is the underclass.

    Everything did not magically change with civil rights legislation. If you are Black you are less likely to be hired or get a loan with the same qualifications. Blacks have 1/10 the wealth of whites and double the poverty rate. Their neighborhoods are less likely to get infrastructure improvements. US Blacks are still considered the underclass by all races.

    So reparations should involve righting past wrongs where possible.
     
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  3. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    I believe someday there is going to be a black president.
     
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    Sunny Hostin reminds me of Rachel Doleza who went to tan beds and got her hair stylized to look like a black person and was president of the NAACP Spokane chapter and filed several lawsuits for discrimination when she was in reality born to white parents

    Why do people go so far to for this victim ancestry.
     
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    Yeah, I was aware of what I was dealing with.
     
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    She is related to those people by rape. So yes, she should be eligible for reparations.

    Black Consciousness - Rape During Slavery
     
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    Many free blacks did not own anything.

    In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people over all was quite small by comparison with the number owned by white people. In his essay, “ ‘The Known World’ of Free Black Slaveholders,” Thomas J. Pressly, using Woodson’s statistics, calculated that 54 (or about 1 percent) of these black slave owners in 1830 owned between 20 and 84 slaves; 172 (about 4 percent) owned between 10 to 19 slaves; and 3,550 (about 94 percent) each owned between 1 and 9 slaves. Crucially, 42 percent owned just one slave.

    It is reasonable to assume that the 42 percent of the free black slave owners who owned just one slave probably owned a family member to protect that person, as did many of the other black slave owners who owned only slightly larger numbers of slaves. As Woodson put it in 1924's Free Negro Owners of Slaves in the United States in 1830, “The census records show that the majority of the Negro owners of slaves were such from the point of view of philanthropy. In many instances the husband purchased the wife or vice versa … Slaves of Negroes were in some cases the children of a free father who had purchased his wife. If he did not thereafter emancipate the mother, as so many such husbands failed to do, his own children were born his slaves and were thus reported to the numerators.”

    Moreover, Woodson explains, “Benevolent Negroes often purchased slaves to make their lot easier by granting them their freedom for a nominal sum, or by permitting them to work it out on liberal terms.” In other words, these black slave-owners, the clear majority, cleverly used the system of slavery to protect their loved ones.

    https://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436

    Blacks owned less than 1 percent of all slaves. And the majority of them purchased family members or friends.
     
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    Slaves were allowed to own property. Many whites owned nothing and had no guarantee of support, slaves did. The thousands of bodies buried in the levees along the Mississippi aren't black bodies, they're Irish and German; slaves were capital investments and too valuable to risk on such dangerous work. Same with the dangerous jobs on the cotton boats. 'Free' white labor was disposable, slaves weren't. Slaves could eat year round, had some shelter, clothes, etc. Anybody who doubts this can take it up with sources like the abolitionist Fredrick Law Omsted and others who saw this firsthand. 'Free' white labor in the northern states wasn't treated much better; the deaths from malnutrition and disease were staggering, and require a constant flow of mass immigration to maintain the numbers of laborers available.

    Your babbling is slanted and incomplete history at best. Union soldiers believed slaves couldn't own property, and robbed and murdered slaves same as they did white families homes; they didn't believe slaves could own personal property either and were just hiding it for their masters. Being 'free and white' was only a marginal advantage in those days, and in many cases worse than being a slave.
     
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    How many slaves did the African American Antwon Ducet own.
     
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    Is that you Harvey Weinstein?
     
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    I don’t believe any of them should get reparations. I think they should be paying us reparations for the riots they have done, pay back for the affirmative action they unconstitutionally took advantage of, and the harm from demonizing current whites for doing things we had no control over.
     
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    Thomas Sowell has pointed out it should be blacks paying reparations, and states the reasons.
    lol Weinstein didn't have to rape women to get sex, just a fact of life, especially in the movie and tv businesses. Women fight over the chance to screw wealthy producers and directors and actors, then when their careers fail to take off offer to sell their 'tragic stories' to tabloid media outfits. Common as dirt for over a hundred years, probably longer in theater and vaudeville and earlier. The ugliest most obnoxious toad will get laid a lot if he has wealth and owns a studio. Many of the women were sleazier and as opportunist as Weinstein.
     
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    If you think any women would want to willingly pillow with Weinstein then you are sadly deluded.
     
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    She is a lawyer, so of course she can prove that she is eligible for double reparations, for slaves her family lost and for being Black.
     

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