Syria blames Israel for air strike near Damascus

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  1. Canell

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    Just when the Iranian deal was off, an attack. What's wrong with these people?
    Who do you think did it?
     
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    Israel is trying to provoke Iran to return fire. She had attacked Iranian bases killing around 18 including 11 Iranians in Syria last week after Russia had told Israel it would not accept this and Israel must stop destabilising Syria. Putin said that after a previous attack by Israel on Iran bases and personnel in Syria.

    Israel had opened shelters in the Golan heights so obviously hoped there would be a return of fire and a war could be started.

    Israel may hope that managing to get Iran into a war at the moment might encourage the EU to go with Trump and renege on the Iran Nuclear deal. Netanyhu has a meeting with Putin today. There could be some link between Trump changing when he was going to make his announcement, Israel's provocation yesterday and that.
     
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    What is Iran doing in Syria besides building Shia force against Israel !!
    Iran is responsible for ALL the provocation.
    Pro Arabo Islamo Jihado should remember that Shia kill Sunni ..
     
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    Helping to get rid of ISIS and types which Israel and presumably the US wants to be ruling Syria. Need to judge people by their deeds not their words. Syria requested help.
     
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    No you got it wrong, the shelters were opened about two hours before Trump gave his speech, Bibi's flight was posponed and we realized something's about to happen then they said on the news that there are reports about Iranian force preparing misslies to fire from Syria and ppl in the Golan advised to stay indoors, about 3 or 4 hours later Israel bombed that Iranian squad and the base it came from.
    Now that is rude I agree, Israel could have allowed those rockets that probably wouldn't have hit anything of value in the Golan and Iran would have got its revenge, but someone thought its stupid to wait and get shot when we have them in our sights, what can I say, its rude but its working...

    There is no way Israel thinks the EU will join the US in case Iran attacks Israel, such an attack as yesterday assures condemnation not support, I think its safe to say we don't rely on EU for protection.
     
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    ISIS is gone, the rebels will stay as long as the bloody dictator remains, their source is Syria itself not Iraq or KSA and that's why Iran and Lebanon build their bases at the heart of Syria and not around the borders where the supposed ISIS fighters come from, to subdue the Syrian rebels.
    US and Russia were fighting ISIS, Iran and Lebanon fought the Syrians, judge them by their actions.
     
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    Really?
    But if US troops stand directly on two sides on the border with Iran (Iraq and Afghanistan), that is no provocation!

    Sure, Iran and the mullahs are everything but not democracy and ultimately a bloody regime ... but so what?
    Other homophobic regimes are friend and partner of the US and there are no such minor things then.

    Iran has been allied with Syria for over 30 years, and if the still-legal head of Syria gets help from his friend in his fight for power and against the Sunni terrorists of IS, he has every right in the world ... whether it be Israel, which has never cared about international law, fits or not!
    Woe if Assad shoots back ... or the Iranians, who are shelled here illegally!

    Sorry, I hope so slowly that there will be shot back and the arrogant Israelis and Americans will wake up and see how stupid they are! But the is of cours eonly 1 evil ... and not the one who started this mess, eh?
     
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    Oh come on Gilos. Of course your government would say that. It remains that Israel is trying to provoke a war with Iran. Hell on the 30th April Israel announced that it would be closing its air space in the golan heights to civilians until the end of May. Israel has been trying to provoke a war there since February. You have even said you want that war

    We shall see how things go with Netanyhu and Putin today. Had however Israel managed to provoke return fire last night it would indeed have been a different meeting.

    I cut off the rest of your reply and can't be bothered finding it again. So basically you see it as Israel and the US against the rest of the world
     
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    Yes, more or less. You supported the wrong side Does not mean you have not still been supplying those who kill Christians and throw gays off buildings and as you say you will be doing that until Assad is dead. It is no wonder Syria needs all the help it can get.
     
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    Better to be arrogant than a bloody Muslim regime.
     
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    Are you talking about the Palestinian Bedouin's regime - Hammas ?
    They throw gays off buildings
     
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    How about a democracy, rather than the Jewish Apartheid state?
     
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    Unless your own arrogance strikes back like a bad boomerang ...
    Apart from the hypocrisy of the whole thing ... because who evaluates a bloody Muslim regime as a friend and partner, but another bloody Muslim regime for the same deeds referred to as evil, makes himself not only totally ridiculous in the world, but loses also his credibility
     
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    Russia has told isreal it won't accept this...LOL, just like they wouldn't accept the tomahawk attacks, that the Syrians air defenses couldn't shoot down:)).
     
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    OK ... you mean that Russia is not capable of it and only bluffing?

    Funny .... we are talking about the S400 weapon system here, which in your eyes is just a joke ... and what is so funny then that it wants to buy Turkey in addition to many other countries and Saudi Arabia even scrap its Patriots because the S400 system is better.

    Anyway ... so be glad that on the other side there are people who still have brains.
    How would you react if the Russians or Syrians or Iranians shoot down the US Tomahawks with the S400, eh? Do you really want to have war with Russia because Syria?
     
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    I think the version I gave meets reality perfectly just as your version, none of us knows what went on for real but we do have a very good intel in Syria, more camera's there than there are on Israeli roads, just a few days a go I read that the transit that picked up 8 soldiers from the unit that dropped the Israeli F-16 was bombed, now that's some good intel.
    Israel wants to solve this issue now before Iran grows stronger in the area (6 of the newly built bases are still empty) and by solving it probably does means a conflict now, same as the Iranian nuke deal, Trump wants this solved now before they grow too strong and be spit away from nuke, its way too hard to pressure Iran when its stronger.
    I dont want war, I want this solved.
    No it wouldn't...Putin is not as sensitive as you may think.
    No, it's Europe against most Arab countries, Israel and the US.
     
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    Wel if israeli jets get shot down over syria i dont see how they could spin it to start ww3, i dont see any euro helping israel in that regard eitherway.

    Shooting at american vessels however just might be a little more risky.

    That sayd i think israel is a bully who deserves it at this point to loose some planes
     
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    Right, those are Syrians with same rights as Iranians, when you send troops to stop Gay perseciution in Iran you can zoom down to hell upon earth a.k.a Syria and work thru Human rights there, since you dont let's not talk about who they beat in their streets.
    We didn't back the wrong guys, the West betrayed the Syrian ppl forcing them to join Jihadists against Assad, your side made peace with a butcher because it couldn't been bothered and Im sure that's what it will say in history books, as soon as the refugee stories make headlines.
     
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    Israeli Arabs live in a democracy.
    Maybe the Palestinian bedouins do not .. you'll have to adress their leader Abu Adolf Mazen
     
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    Strange ... i never saw a clip or a video of an American or Israeli burning the Persian flag.
    However - lot's of evil hatred and burnt flags on the Arab and Persian Islam side.
     
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    So you are agreeing that Israel was trying to provoke a strike from Iran and of course had all her bomb shelters open feeling happy that she would be able to kill all those people and hers would be safe in shelters, the sort of thinking cowards usually have - only they didn't act as you wanted.
     
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    You are saying you are supporting Al Qaeda and ISIS types throwing gays off roofs because of Iran's position on gays - which is basically to demand they have a sex change. Syria is not Iran. You believe that Iran has taken over Lebanon but Lebanon's laws do nothing of the sort to Gays. Indeed from what I hear there are more or less accepted bar the shouting. How does that justify Israel supporting the throwing off buildings of Gays by ISIS and the mass murder/enslavement of Christians and Muslims who are not good enough at pretending they will go along? Of course given that your second closet alley believes in killing Gays will no doubt be the real reason for your justification of this.

    sure you did. You backed the losing side. You were hoping not to have to get your military actively involved. Now you are wanting outright war.

    Really I missed that bit of propaganda. The Syrian people, those who wanted a revolution which had no violence, no sectarianism and no outside interference now you say were reported as forcing people to join Jihadists. Wow.
     
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    The Rebels are not ISIS, many of them joined ISIS or Nusra but when ISIS fell the rebels remain and you can call them whatever you like but I dont buy your stern support for the Palestinians and not understanding how Syrians fight against Assad, not for one sec.
    Regardless of how this new Iran-Israeli conflict will get solved my bet is on the rebels, one day they will reach Assad and assassinate him and the war will start again, there can be no peaceful solution while he's on the throne, too much bad blood it wont sink.
    The FSA was not a non violent group it simply had no chance against Iran, Lebanon and Assad, left alone they joined the Jihadists, what about it that you deny ?
     
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    If "Persia" was doing the kinds of things the US does there would be :)
     
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    Because the Jewish States says so!
     

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