Tea Party Afraid Obamacare will be a success.

TeaBaggeds should be more worried about their inability to live in reality than the aca, which has reduced healthcare inflation and showing itself to be a boon for growing jobs.

 

Speaking about an inability to live in reality.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/03/30/health-care-spending/7007987/

 

Since when is saving lives patriotic? I think you made that up just now.

 

I'm paying for you. My premiums went up by 50% and my deductible tripled.

 

Go back to the old Reaganista health care system, and have higher costs and more people without insurance. At least Obama and Democrats have been able to counter the drag the GOP has created on the economy, and are seeing jobs created and health care being something that's attainable for nearly all.

 

So we end up with Obamacare and as many uninsured and costs more? Brilliant.

 

LOL! You do make a point - killing American lives by starting foreign wars is considered patriotic by many delusionals on the far right.

 

True patriots delight in the good news about ACA:














More signups - more money saved every day thanks to ACA!


Thank you Mr Obama!

 

Medicare has nothing to do with Obamacare.

 

Thanks. I can no longer afford my healthcare. Premiums went up 50% and my deductible tripled. 'If you like your insurance, you can keep it'. Can I punch you in the face?

 

except, that's not what happened, of course.

 

Except for the facts, you might have something.

 

Only 40% of liberals love the USA. So spare me your fake patriotism.

 

See previous links which prove you wrong (again).

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100% of deluded right wingers (especially those on this forum) hate America.

 

Yeah to increasing subsides collected by the IRS, 'because it is not a tax', and paid out by Obamacare.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/study-obamacare-reduces-uninsured-rate-2014-7

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...ring-the-uninsured-a-glass-half-empty-moment/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/03/16/the_high_costs_of_obamacare_121948.html

 

So much better than the 45,000 dead per year blood tax that Republicans caused in the past.

 

So, even though there are many more who are insured, and future healthcare inflation is lower than it would have been under the Reaganista system, you say it's not enough.

The next step would be to go to a fully universal, single payer system to reduce costs further and to ensure everyone is covered. I agree.

 

It has done nothing to reduce the cost of providing health care. It has not reduced the cost premiums, premiums have increased for the majority of individuals, families and small businesses providing group coverage for their employees. Just as the CBO predicted. Health care inflation? By that do you mean the cost of health care paid by the government? For such programs as Medicare and Medicaid? When the Government speaks of reducing the cost of health care they are talking about their costs. Not the costs of small businesses, individuals or families. And, there is now an Exchange Hole. Those that don't qualify for a subsidy because they make too little and don't qualify for Medicaid because they make too much. Google it if you haven't heard of it. As far as growing jobs in the health care field. As hospitals and doctors are paid less they will be unable to increase their employee base, or will bring on more part-time workers at lower wages. You will see more "emergent care" businesses that are not on most insurance plans, requiring patients to pay up front and to pay a higher fee after hours and on weekends. Patients will be forced to seek this mode of treatment as more and more hospitals/emergency rooms refuse them due to failure of their insurance to cover non-life threatening care. More doctors will be unable to care for individuals who have insurance plans the doctor doesn't accept because the plan fails to cover their cost of treatment.

This is already happening. Perhaps you haven't experienced yet, but many have since Jan. 1, 2014. I have seen it first hand.

Stop making this a Party issue. It is not. The facts are the facts and they are the facts as stated in the ACA.

Too bad the Legislature failed to ask for advise from those actually providing care, dealing with Medicaid, Medicare and Private Insurance Companies before passing the PPACA.

By the way, there are two major parts of the "Act", the "patient protection" portion that included health insurance reforms(including Insurance Companies in the Sherman Act and other regulatory changes that have been needed for years) and the revisions to Medicaid and Medicare and the substance of Private Health Insurance benefits. Something that was rushed an ill conceived in my experienced opinion.

Progressives should be as worried as anyone that the PPACA will raise premiums, taxes and result in many more individuals not having health insurance.

PLUS, news reports now say that the Government will providing the influx of illegals with free medical care. Guess the President was wrong when he denied this is his State of the Union 2010.

 

look... No one said it was going to reduce costs. It wasn't promised to do so. The only way actual costs would have been lowered, overall, would have been to create a fully universal single payer, or fully universal nationalized health care system. Instead, because politically we could not have done it at that time, we settled for a nearly universal, privatized system. It's far and away better than the old Reaganista system, that was seeing more people unable to have insurance at all because private health insurance inflation was rising far higher than it is now, and far higher than wages or CPI. Are premiums still rising? Yes, but at a far lower rate than under the old system. And with the subsidies offered for people who aren't covered by employers or Medicaid, the so-called Exchange Hole is very small.

So, while the law is far better than the wing nuts were offering (which would have been far more people priced out of insurance due to larger premium hikes, as the CBO pointed out when they submitted their plan), I agree there are parts that can be fixed. I'm a proponent of at least a universal single payer system. If the wing nuts want to get on board with that, it would be the first time in 3 or 4 decades that they've gotten on board witha good idea.

 

Republican liars called out by Maher:



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...ls-out-all-the-debunked-GOP-lies-on-Obamacare



Last night, Bill Maher ripped the Republicans for their repeated lies about Obamacare that they never bothered to apologize for, or show any shame.

You know, you just wanna go, wait, when did we switch over? What happened to yesterday's lie? It's still out there forever, like a plastic bag in a tree. But now we're just using the new one?
Yes, because what they do is they pass a zombie lie down to dumber and dumber people, who believe it more and more.

Hank Paulson may be over the one about climate change being a hoax, but it's still good enough for Sean Hannity. Who then gets quoted by Michele Bachmann. Who forms the intellectual core of the thinking of Victoria Jackson. And when you think the zombie lie has finally gone to die at the idea hospice of the absolutely stupidest people on Earth, there it is being retweeted by Donald Trump.





They said Obamacare would use death panels. It doesn't.

They said it was a government takeover, and the insurance industry is making record profits.

They said it covered illegals. It doesn't.

They said it was a job killer. It hasn't been.

They said there were elves who bake cookies in trees. Well, almost. (audience laughter and applause)






Republicans = biggest liars in USA history.

 

Obama merely plagiarized RomneyCare. If I was a Republican I'd want to be claiming credit for the ACA rather than waiting for it to become TOO successful.

 

Well, there's been a subtle shift in Mitch McConnell playing KYNECT as different from ObamaCare...