Tea Party Afraid Obamacare will be a success.

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    see the Facebook link previously posted with thousands of testimonials from people whose lives have been saved or enhanced by ACA - ask them if they prefer not to have affordable care
     
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    More proof that ACA is working - the attacks by the right wing are diminishing every day:



    GOP Attacks On Obamacare Fizzle In Key Senate Races (many Americans are benefiting from the law)



    Obamacare is fading as a cudgel against Democrats in key battleground races poised to determine control of the Senate, according to a new analysis by Bloomberg News.

    Since the law's botched rollout last fall, Republicans have been licking their chops over the prospect of riding Obamacare failures to victory in the 2014 elections. But now that the law has recovered and is providing insurance coverage to millions of Americans, issue ads involving the health care law are slowly disappearing in key states like North Carolina, Louisiana and Arkansas.

    In North Carolina, Obamacare was mentioned in 54 percent of issue ads in April; it fell to 27 percent in July, per data from Kantar Media’s Campaign Media Analysis Group.

    In Louisiana, Obamacare fell to 41 percent of top five issue ads in July; in Arkansas it dropped to 23 percent, according to CMAG. The issue dominated the airwaves in both states in April.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obamacare-attacks-fizzle-in-key-senate-races


    Obamacare Losing Power as Campaign Weapon in Ad Battles
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...g-punch-as-campaign-weapon-in-ad-battles.html

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    The shift -- also taking place in competitive states such as Arkansas and Louisiana -- shows Republicans are easing off their strategy of criticizing Democrats over the Affordable Care Act now that many Americans are benefiting from the law and the measure is unlikely to be repealed.

    “The Republican Party is realizing you can’t really hang your hat on it,” said Andrew Taylor, a political science professor at North Carolina State University. “It just isn’t the kind of issue it was.”


    Why Republicans Have Stopped Talking About Obamacare In Campaign Ads


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    357,584 signed up for coverage the the federal exchange; 73,898 were determined to be eligible for Medicaid coverage. According to WalletHub, North Carolina’s uninsurance rate dropped by 2.96 percent from 19.64 percent to 16.68 percent.

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    Arkansas
    43,446 signed up for coverage through the federal exchange; 63,465 were determined to be eligible for Medicaid coverage. According to Gallup, “the rate of people without health insurance fell from 22.5 percent in 2013 to 12.4 percent in mid-2014.”

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    Louisiana
    101,778 Louisiana residents signed up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, but most of those enrollees already had coverage. According to one survey, “the percentage of uninsured in Louisiana dropped from 22.41 percent to 20.91 percent. That still leaves more than one of every five residents in the state with no insurance.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/201...lly-accepting-that-obamacare-is-here-to-stay/





    ACA IS SAVING LIVES EVERY DAY - AND THAT'S THE PATRIOTIC TRUTH.

    THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!
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    I'm ON Medicaid in Florida, its a good program considering everything, but is WELFARE I personally pay nothing, the state pays $7000 a year for me to my HMO which is doing right by me so far. All Obamacare did in expansion states is extend WELFARE to many more people and what is that doing to access to providers who get Traditional Medicaid. I don't want the ER to be my primary source of care I want a medical team at a medical home to do that so I don't go to the hospital.

    Florida cannot add a million Medicaid people and not hurt people like me, not without a lot more doctors across the board. And I like my NP he is great but a doctor still oversees my care and I see other specialists a Podiatrist for my feet etc.
     
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    Those who couldn't afford "individual/family" health insurance or had pre-existing diseases AND who are eligible for "subsidy", may benefit from their new insurance. But those not eligible for subsidy and small group plans are the big losers under the ACA. There premiums and/or deductibles are increasing. Those in the health insurance "donut hole", meaning they neither qualify for a subsidy or Medicaid and can't afford the premium quoted on the Federal or State Exchange; remain without insurance coverage. Obama and the Dems totally left them to fend for themselves and force them to continue to seek free emergency room care that those of us that can afford insurance pay for.

    The truth lies in these facts that are undisputable.
     
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    That hole doesn't exist in states that expanded Medicaid. If your state hasn't reduced its uninsurance rate as much as others because it hasn't expanded Medicaid, take it up with your governor and/or state legislature.
     
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    Medicaid IS Welfare so your point in North Dakota who has lots and lots of natural gas and oil income expanded Medicaid. But they also had to add fewer people than say Florida here it would be a million people they are guessing, our Medicaid set-up cannot accommodate that. They added a small percentage of that after ACA on Traditional Medicaid and its bearing it well enough.

    Don't believe Medicaid is not welfare the article has a person seeing a SPECIALIST for a few dollars, no one with company financed insurance would pay that by a long shot, I pay nothing but the HMO gets much more control over my specialty care and treatments save my Medical Home services which are pretty good. I'm on welfare.
     
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    I posted comments on WSJ and many other sites including Political Form regarding the apparent donut hole of insurance coverage. Here is an article I found on WSJ long after I posted on their website:
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    Updated Feb. 18, 2014 3:39 p.m. ET http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304851104579363621009670740


    BIRMINGHAM, Ala.—Ernest Maiden was dumbfounded to learn that he falls through the cracks of the health-care law because in a typical week he earns about $200 from the Happiness and Hair Beauty and Barber Salon.

    Like millions of other Americans caught in a mismatch of state and federal rules, the 57-year-old hair stylist doesn't make enough money to qualify for federal subsidies to buy health insurance. If he earned another $1,300 a.."

    The article says what I have been posted on this site and others for many months. Many of the very people that were unable to afford health insurance but who have jobs don't earn enough to qualify for the subsidy that was suppose to help them pay for insurance and earn too much to qualify for Medicaid EVEN in the States that expanded Medicaid. Many on this website continue to deny that even States that expanded Medicaid coverage are covering these individuals. Obviously, they either are liberal sheeple or to lazy to research the subject.

    At any rate, those that want to know the truth should google the subject.

    My Son is in the "insurance/Medicaid donut hole", He can't afford the premiums quoted him on the Federal Insurance Exchange, in fact, he is told to apply for his States Medicaid Program; but he isn't eligible for the program as he is working while also a full-time College Student. B.S,
     
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    No, that coverage gap does not exist "even in states that expanded Medicaid." Your WSJ article is crystal clear that the gap exists only because some states have declined the Medicaid expansion:

    States that didn't decline the expansion don't have a coverage gap because Medicaid eligibility (0-138% FPL) and exchange subsidy eligibility (100-400% FPL) have no gap between them.

    Then your son isn't in a Medicaid expansion state, as states with expanded Medicaid programs don't have such restrictions. He's a victim of whoever the governor and/or legislature in his state happens to be.
     
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    coverage gap:




    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...-Pressures-Austin-Over-ACA-Medicaid-Expansion



    At an estimated population of over 4.3 million people, Harris County is the largest county in the state of Texas, and the third largest in the United States. In population, Harris County is actually larger than 24 states.

    With those big numbers come big challenges, especially regarding healthcare costs. Thanks to the belligerence of Republicans in the Texas legislature, Harris County continues to shoulder a massive burden in uncompensated healthcare costs, while large counties in other states have access to new funds under the Affordable Care Act. Harris County Judge Ed Emmett, himself a Republican, is now speaking out to let Rick Perry and other Texas politicians know that the politics over the ACA cannot continue. Here’s the story from News92 FM…

    Harris County taxpayers right now have to bear the entire cost of paying for indigent healthcare.
    Judge Ed Emmett said the Affordable Care Act could help provide some relief.

    Emmett said while certain people at the state can argue about the “benefits or detriments” of the Affordable Care Act, those are our tax dollars in Washington and state law makers need to find a way to bring them back to Texas.

    “The tax dollars in Washington, those belong to people here too,” Emmett said. “And so those need to come back to the state of Texas to help us off set some of these property taxes.”

    Emmett and other urban county judges from across the state, both Republicans and Democrats, have written to Texas lawmakers urging them to find a solution.

    Emmett says during the last legislative session, Harris County missed out being reimbursed hundreds of millions of dollars.

    “$900 million over a two-year period would have come back to Harris County, of that less than $100 million would have gone to the Harris County Hospital District,” Emmett said.





    ACA continues to save money and lives every day. All the proof is there, contrary to the lies of the right wingers.
     
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    Another big boost for Obamacare

    Source: Washington Post

    By Greg Sargent August 28 at 3:40 PM

    In another sign that the politics of Obamacare continue to shift, the Medicaid expansion is now all but certain to come to another big state whose Republican governor had previously resisted it: Pennsylvania.

    The federal government has approved Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett’s application for the state’s own version of the Medicaid expansion, without a handful of the conditions Corbett had hoped to impose, Dem sources tell me.

    Corbett just announced that he will accept the expansion that has been offered, perhaps with some last-minute changes — expanding coverage and subsidies to as many as half a million people.

    This comes after months of jockeying between Corbett and the federal government. Corbett had pushed for a version of the expansion that would have imposed various conditions designed to make it more palatable to conservatives and to achieve political distance from Obamacare — while simultaneously taking all that federal money. Among them: Using the cash to pay for private coverage for the poor.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/08/28/another-big-boost-for-obamacare/
     
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    The surest proof that Obamacare is becoming a sucess is that the Republican candidates have stopped campaigning against it.
     
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    ... and that Republican governors in Indiana and Pennsylvania among others who opposed expansion of Medicaid now approve of doing so in order to gain votes.
     
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    Well the Medicaid Expansion part is untouchable now except to make changes and improvements its simple Congressional Math 27 States are on board or will be on board this year that is 54 Senate Seats, a lot of House Seats who will be hard pressed to vote against the interests of their home states that fight is over. So we need to look at fixing the rest of the law.
     
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    My son, like many other wage earners does not want "Medicaid", he was promised affordable health insurance, not Medicaid. If he qualified for the subsidy he could afford health insurance through a good insurance company. But, since he earns too little the Federal Government forces him to apply for State Medicaid, a substandard health insurance plan. Fortunately, even though Texas didn't expand Medicaid I have found him a better private plan that the one offered through the Federal Exchange and it affordable for him, doesn't have a outrageous deductible and far better than Medicaid coverage.

    You are wrong about the "insurance hole". It does exist. Not everyone that earns too little to get affordable insurance through the exchange qualifies for Medicaid, regardless whether their State expanded Medicaid or not. Based on what you say, anyone earning too little for premium assistance automatically is eligible for Medicaid if expanded in their State. But that is not so.

    And, can't wait to see how many people that got a "subsidy" of premiums will now be required to pay the government back all or a portion of the subsidy they were given. And, by the way, interest and penalties can be assessed. This includes individuals who received a wage increase during the year that makes their income above the eligibility limit.

    And, already insured's are having problems getting their carrier to pay for hospital and surgical care.
     
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    Yes, that is so. In an expansion state.
     
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    Obamacare Effect Linked to Lower Medical Cost Estimates

    Source: Bloomberg

    By Caroline Chen and Ian Katz Sep 5, 2014

    Estimates of U.S. health-care spending for the next five years have been lowered by two federal agencies, and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is getting much of the credit.

    U.S. health spending in 2019 will be $4 trillion, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services said this week, or $500 billion less than the agency projected in 2010 when President Barack Obama’s health-care overhaul became law. That announcement followed by a week a report from the Congressional Budget Office lowering its five-year cost estimates.

    Obamacare has been criticized by Republicans as costly and unsustainable. Now, four years after its arrival, the law’s mandated program cuts and the medical practices it encourages -- limiting unneeded procedures, and keeping people out of the hospital longer -- are cited by economists as key ingredients in trimming the nation’s medical bill. While the recession has had an influence on the cost slowdown, it doesn’t explain it all, according to policy analysts and the CBO.

    “When the CBO goes back and revises their baseline, historically they’ve adjusted upwards,” said Tricia Neuman, director of the Kaiser Family Foundation’s Program on Medicare Policy. “So the fact that there’s been year-after-year downward adjustments is fairly remarkable since they occurred after the ACA” was signed into law.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...t-linked-to-lower-medical-cost-estimates.html





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    You are gullible. Once this plays out, more physicians will no longer accept insurance. Will give cash discounts to patients and work out payment plans as vets and dentist do now.
     
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    ACA is still working and ever increasing - God bless America!!
     
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    What do you mean by ever increasing as working daily in the health care field, this is not what I see or hear from the health care community.
     
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    See links in my posts - 20 million and counting!
     
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    Question, is the cost of Providing medical care lower; or the reimbursements for medical treatment? Two separate issues. The cost of providing medical treatment is rising as is the cost of providing treatment. The only thing going down is what is paid to physicians and hospitals for the treatment they give/provide.
     
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    No need for anyone, including the Tea Party to be afraid the PPACA will be a success. Unfortunately for all of us it will not and never could be.
     

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