Teachers in Australian state to be fired in 2022 for not taking COVID jab

Fighting against the pro-death and anti-freedom crowd should be a duty.

 

The vaccines have been shown to be safe by medical experts and they have recommended that the general public take them. All vaccines do come with a certain element of risk, and if you don't want to take them, then don't do a job that requires them.

 

Yea, those are the same people who claimed that 90% (90,000 in two months) of deaths came from unvaccinated.
Of course they think people are stupid and do not know basic arithmetic.

 

Medical experts aren't stupid and actually are very capable of doing math. Can you site a source on this 90% figure and why its wrong?

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm
(54440 + 47090) * 0.9 = 91377
So if we had no vaccine, then those 91377 would represent about 10% of all deaths.
Using that data we can estimate how many deaths we would have without vaccination.
That would be roughly 91377 * 10 ~ 913770
Almost million deaths in two months.
That is more dangerous then Ebola or anything that is known to humanity.

 

There is no basis for claiming that because 10% of deaths are from the vaccinated, that the current unvaccinated deaths is 10% of what it would be if nobody was vaccinated. I don't see how that makes any sort of sense. The only way the unvaccinated deaths were 10 times higher than now is if the percent of people unvaccinated was 10 times higher, assuming a constant death rate for the unvaccinated. But 50% of the population is currently unvaccinated, so the unvaccinated rate would have to be 500% for the vaccinated death rate to be 10 times higher.

Trust me, I tutored math for many years and your math makes zero sense. You would get zero points for this question if it was on a math test. As it turns out, its you who can't do basic math, and the medical experts with decades of education and experience got it right. It turns out you aren't smarter than teams of medical professionals in their own field.

 

Death rate for COVID-19 is about 2% of total number of cases.
If we assume that we did not have a vaccine then death rate in August/September should be about 20% i.e. about million people.
That is totally unrealistic.
So either "medical scientists" are lying about 90% or politicians have taken responsibility to be our new medical scientists.

 

So... what does that have to do with spread? Which is what the other poster referred to.

You are convoluting two issues to try to make anthird point.

What is being defined as a vaccine is really just medicine to reduce symptoms.

 

And your case is authoritarianism works?

 

My case is following sound guidelines and rules in relation to pandemics saves lives



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America leads the world in the number infected and dead does it not?

 

Yes it does. We are also a nation that values our freedom and our kids freedom above our own lives.
“Give me freedom or give me death”

“those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither”

it’s in our history

 

Yeah well, that is good is it not?
But on a very very basic level if your body attacks the virus before it replicates into a monstrous killing machine it means you will have less virus in you system for a shorter period of time. Now tell me again how that is “useless” in stopping the spread of the virus?

 

Yeah well WE are mature enough that we realise social responsibility sometimes takes precedence over what some deem “freedoms” which aren’t freedoms but simply an excuse

So what specific “freedoms” have we lost?

 

Congrats for trying to claim that 2+2 = apples and oranges

 

It helps reduce the spread by around 50%
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

The chances you get knocked into the hospital when vaxxed are fastly reduced.
The chances covid kills you when vaxxed are also fastly reduced.


And I am for such a rule, that anti-vaxxers movement is greatly reduced for the sake to protect peoples health and the economy. That minority of trouble makers should simply be banned from social gatherings for now. It's that or else be kicked out of hospitals if a person in need of general care to be let in. Mind you, them anti-vaxxers are filling up the hospital beds like crazy. When they get a bed on the ICU, they could be hawking that bed for weeks on end. A person who has heart surgery would be there for just some days... meaning... when all beds are used, it means 1 covid patient causes at least 10 patients with heart diseases to wait till it's vacant.

 

Absolutely and all around the world we have seen that when the ICUs are full to overflowing death rates rise because fatigue causes mistakes, untrained people make mistakes and sometimes in crisis resource management the ones with the best chances have to be given the best chances. And all this healthcare COSTS. We will be paying for this pandemic for years to come

 

Those are speculations that are based on propaganda.

 

CDC is about apples and you probably are talking about oranges.
Either we should have only about 10,000 deaths, or vaccination does not not really help to 90% of infected people.

 

Somehow I got the feelings the people who do not care that they get covid and spread it, potentially killing themselves and others... demanding that they get the last say what happens to their body and not the government, are the same right wing Christians who demand the government has the last say in what happens when somebody is pregnant.... and so are exceptionally hypocrite. That, besides that they already were hypocrite because they demand women to have children but don't give a rats butt about what happens to a child when born.

 

I get the impression that many of the vaccinated are unaware they can catch and spread Covid. Guess they don’t care.

 

They is fatigue, because the sheer number of people flooding the hospitals.... who predominantly wouldn't be there if they were vaxxed. Being vaxxed hardly is cost a thing. Being hospitalized costs a massive fortune.


I don't have any problems with people denying covid is real and/or place their health in the hands of God... that they do that at home and not in the hospital. They can prey their little hearts out right in their own home perfectly fine. That way, everybody else can just go on with their lives. Rather sure how this survival of believing in science is going to work out.

 

sure... the scientific paper called Nature, is just "propaganda" ... lol

Does it look like I care that you have put your trust in facebook?

 

you are being facetious; right?

 

who denies that the Covid flu is real? It's like denying that the seasonal flu is real.

Just because the media and statist politicians were fear mongering doesn't mean that folks don't think Covid is real. We probably all know folks who caught Covid and got better. Just like we know folks who catch the flu, head colds etc.

Is the engineered virus more contagious than normal flus; absolutely. But, it does not mean a death sentence for everyone or even a high %

 

Somehow I get the impression that they do, and the people who were against wearing masks now shift their theme to being against being against vaxxed as well. It's a right wing theme of when wrong, then double down on being wrong.