Teaching in america

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sure. Fund publical schools equivalent to private schools and have the same teacher/ pupil ratio. Or at least fund all public schools equally instead of funding them on property taxes so the poorest get the worst.

    Instead of paying lip service about how the next generation is our future time America actually acted that way.
     
  2. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, some do. A friend of mine started her own private school with just 4 or five children. Now she is well established and her classes go up to grade 12!! It developed into a family business, with her husband and son driving mini school buses. Impressive!
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Lets try that with the federal government first!
     
  4. Adfundum

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    And what difference would that make?
     
  5. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Or start with the administrators.
     
  6. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well... that begs the question, WHY do we have so many unruly and rebellious students?
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    maybe give the chronic whiners a little perspective.
     
  8. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah.... you just plain made up a bunch of BS.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nah, hyperbole, like good comedy, is anchored in truth.
     
  10. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only in that fictitious world that lives in your mind.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it's not. Perhaps 10 percent is in the upper scale while the rest is in the lower scale. That doesn't give it the average you've claimed.
     
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    I forgot the name of the org site, but the students have to navigate from square to square with their avatar to get to a certain place to win the game and in doing so, each move generates code that the student can review and in the advanced game use code to move the avatar. This is part of the curriculum and he even works summers on the tech team for the following school year.
     
  13. Jazz

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    The other way around also works... teachers get extra free time when the school closes or only keeps a skeleton staff due to bad weather, icy roads. Happens regularly every winter.
    Maternity leave is also very generous, compared to the rest of the free society. I believe it is a whole year. Paid, of course! AND there are teachers needed everywhere, so there is plenty of opportunity to move around, even go overseas.
    In conclusion one could calmly state that teaching is a rewarding, stimulating, never boring and above average paid job.
    Any more complaints??
     
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    Yes there was, to put Intelligent Design in the science room, stating Darwim wasn't correct.
     
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    So that effort was successfully implemented Nationwide, and has led to a decline in science scores?

    I haven't seen evidence of that happening.

    Perhaps you could provide a link that shows this have become part of the National curriculum.
     
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    I think it points to the answer--education has been reduced to monotony--something to be endured. It doesn't challenge or produce any serious benefits.
     
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    I read a long time ago that teachers in private schools while getting paid less than public school teachers still had greater job satisfaction. My guess is dealing with all the bureaucrats, red tape, uninterested parents, and lack of control are some of the main problems teachers face. Pay, not so much.
     
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    Not everyone is an entrepreneur. Not everyone cares to be an entrepreneur. You should stop with the nonsensical posts.
     
  19. Adfundum

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    How so? I'm not seeing any connection. Maybe you're just being sarcastic, and I have no problem with that (being quite prone to it myself), but I will say that running education like a business is ridiculous.
     
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    I haven't had many conversations with you. Thus I am not 100 percent aware of your politics. If you're a right winger bitching about this stuff I salute you and you should be pushing this on your brethren.
     
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    And again. You have no ****ing points to make, at all. You just spew off topic nonsense and you know I'm right that your opinion is uninformed fox news drivel

    When you have the ghost of a point to make let me know.
     
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    What's pathetic is that conservatives sit around whine and moan about the education system and bashing teachers but won't do anything about it. Many continue to send their kids to the same school system and can't be bothered to home school their kids.
     
  23. Jazz

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    Moving squares around doesn't seem like learning how to get out of a technical problem. My tech guy seems to have an x-ray vision of the innards and uses only a few taps and all is in order again. I suspect he has figured out my dumb mistakes I keep making!!
     
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    Teaching is not about the money, though it's a good way to draw in talented people and keep them. I think most of us enter the profession with idealistic notions and a desire to help kids learn. It's incredibly rewarding to see students use what they've learned, and even to see them go on to become teachers themselves.

    You're right about the other factors, however, the list goes on. It's a social issue that starts with our poor understanding of what schools and education should be. You want the old "three r's"? Then you only need students to get through the 8th grade. You want students to be prepared to enter college? You need to get everybody on board with the idea of local autonomy. You want balance? You need to specifically define what balance means and how it's to be achieved.
     
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    Isn't that just a result of expecting others to take care of problems for us?
     
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