Terminating disabled babies who probably won't survive and will be disabled

You are not more qualified above others to decide who is worthy of life and who should die because you work in a hospital.

 

Actually I am. Unless you have seen end of life situations you cannot judge

 

No you are not qualified to decide who should "gently die" ..

There have been people in the medical field who have taken that upon themselves and they have been caught and convicted.

 

Some but not many and quite frankly I will say again, unless you have witnessed the agony of end stage then you cannot judge

I hope you never have to

 

So you are right. In Australia nurses are allowed to decide who lives and who dies.

https://familyvoice.org.au/news/aus...tient-but-loses-nursing-license-for-two-years

I must say....I am so blessed to live in the United States. We have paved roads. Energy sources. Freedom of speech. And our nurses aren't allowed to kill patients.

 

Let us start with NOT A REGISTERED NURSE! Not even an endorsed enrolled nurse - but a simple enrolled nurse which means she could not touch medication let alone administer it.

https://www.queenslandjudgments.com.au/caselaw/qcat/2021/55

Do you want me to repeat that? Cause of death unclear. This is why she was sanctioned but not charged with murder. Since then euthanasia has become legal in Qld. Now there are nearly eighty thousand nurses in Qld alone and you found ONE case in the last thirty odd years? Now I will give fair warning this is the last time I will respond in a polite fashion future posts of this nature I will leave to be moderated

 

But you seem to think the mother is more qualified?

 

So when should we kill Down syndrome patients, in your view? In the womb?
Never?
Only so long as they haven't reached 16 weeks gestation yet?

Or let me guess, you don't "advocate" it, but you don't think there should be any legal restrictions against it.

Bowerbird, when you say things like that, it's unclear exactly what you mean. You have to have full well known this.

 

Maybe you will be interested in this, Bowerbird
ukraine Sends Men with Down's syndrome to Front Line...

 

Let me repeat

I do not advocate for “killing” those with 21 trisomy. Having said that not all cases are equal

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdef...brachycephaly, large,, overfolded helix (ear).
one if the more common issues is Tetralogy of Fallot


If it were known that the foetus had multiple impacts then it is up to the family if they want to put a child through multiple large invasive surgeries

Not all things are equal

 

Why on earth would I be “interested” in that?

 

Usually yes because she is or should be getting the relevant information and knows the context applicable to her and her family.

 

either are you qualified

 

So you think a nurse should be able to kill her/his patient with no repercussions? ? Are they qualified to do that? Because that is what we are talking about here.

 

I do support assisted suicide in the cases of terminal illness, yes, why would I not support death with dignity laws?

do you support forcing a patient to suffer against their will when they are terminal?

Would you support forcing a pet to suffer in their end days, most would not, why force a human to suffer?

 

We are not talking about assisted suicide. That hasn't even been the topic of discussion.

 

were talking about a woman choosing not to have a baby, which is her choice, not yours, mine or the governments

 

should read the title.... you're the one that mentioned going off-topic

 

Does it?? Citation please

 

It is you who thinks that someone other than the doctor and the patient is qualified to demand health care decisions.

Somehow, you think that congresses can make that decision for all women and doctors!

That has been shown to be an absurd position to take.

 

No, that is NOT the subject.

The laws in Idaho, Texas and other places are against fully qualified OB/GYNs who are treating women who have pregnancies that are a medical threat to the woman.

This is NOT a discussion about credentials.

 

I suspect you are not understanding the point.

First, you will note that the case you cite includes punishment.

Next, it's not up to the nurse to decide. It's up to the woman to decide.

Being happy that in the US it is up to the GOVERNMENT to decide is ridiculous - and counter to fundamental conservative doctrine.

How can you be happy that if a woman is pregnant, treatment of serious health issues is taken over by the government?

 

And yet in your accusations it appears you do not know the difference between palliative care, euthanasia and assisted suicide

 

A person in the medical field....a nurse or doctor...doesn't have the right to kill somebody because they decide the quality of life isn't up to standard. Adult or baby.. Nurses have gone to prison for that....

 

Im done with this thread. It's gotten pretty chilling.