Terminating disabled babies who probably won't survive and will be disabled

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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    You are mixing issues and pretending that supports Republican laws directing that DOCTORS can not take important healthcare intervention in favor of the woman's life and well being,. All such decisions are made only with the woman's consent.

    This is NOT a situation where the DOCTOR or NURSE makes the decision. They provide medical information and the woman decides.

    Republicans have been changing that to threaten doctors and nurses and to deny women healthcare that can be absolutely necessary. This has been documented over the past few months.

    That has NOTHING to do with nurses killing people. It has to do with doctors and pregnant women making important care decisions, with the woman having ultimate decision authority.

    You are trying to twist medical practice in order to make a point, and you have it WRONG.
     
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    Women (who have final decision authority) 3and their doctors making decisions on healthcare is not "chilling".

    That is the way all healthcare decisions are made.
     
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    Physician assisted suicide laws include serious limitations that must be scrupulously followed and multiply verified.

    These limits include issues major uncontrollable pain with no chance of change before impending death, etc.

    It is not about standard quality of life. It's not about depression, etc.
     
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    You keep claiming that palliative care is “killing” people - please please learn the difference!
     
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    Here's one that certainly is chilling.

    A woman repeatedly going to the hospital asking for help. Her doctor stated that the fetus was nonviable, and that it should be evacuated. But, of course she was just sent home - repeatedly.

    So, she goes home and has a miscarriage.

    After going back to the hospital, her nurse turned her into the authorities!!!

    Then, the authorities go after her IN COURT!

     
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    Thank-you @WillReadmore what you have described part of a spectrum of care at end of life
    Assisted suicide is more what the Swiss laws allow. If say, you are a quadriplegic or worse (for worse look up “locked in syndrome) you can request death. This is carried out is special facility with all legal and ethical oversight
    Euthanasia is less aggressive than that. It is more a hastening of an inevitable end
    Palliative care is when we know nothing we can do will change the outcome so we make people as comfortable as possible
    https://palliativecare.org.au/wp-co...2019/09/2019-VAD-position-statement-Final.pdf

    if you want to learn more about this the I highly recommend the following documentary by the late great Terry Pratchett

    https://documentary.net/video/terry-pratchett-choosing-to-die-medically-assisted-death/
     
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