The Answer To Our Problems, EV's

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    Thread title says nothing about America, and BYD is the leading manufacturer of EVs in the world..
     
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    Buffet is not a billionaire by accident.
     
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    Quite a summary of the article. Even though it a Right-Wing rag, I will comment on the National Review article. The largest Chinese manufacturer of automobiles has stated that they have no plans to enter the American market due to geopolitical concerns. Biden's "not on my watch" comments made an impression. That said,I think this will be America's loss. BYD doesn't need America. They are doing just fine around the world. As China, and other countries continue to enhance all technology associated with EVs (cars, batteries, repurposing and recycling of batteries, renewables role in charging EVs, buses, etc), America falls farther behind. Thank goodness for Tesla Corporation - at least one American car company is in the game.
     
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    Oh, I'm sure everything China says is gospel. They're such a righteous and upstanding people you know. They'd never lie to us stupid Americans.

    But that's alright. June's coming and the whole EV fraud in this country will likely collapse before it can really do damage.

    Thank God for little favors.
     
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    Tesla’s are expensive glorified golf carts which rich people buy as a means of virtue signaling.
     
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    Nowadays there are regular price cuts in EVs, and they are often less-expensive than their ICE counterparts. When you factor in 35% savings on maintenance, and cheaper fuel costs, EVs are the wiser financial decision.
     
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    EV’s are highly subsidized by the government which means that taxpayers are partially footing the bill. And there now is no difference in the price of gasoline and electricity at charging stations.

    What 35% savings on maintenance?
     
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    But you keep forgetting, ICE is vastly superior at doing actual work. And EVs have much worse resale.

    My F150 is a much wiser financial decision than any EV in existence. I've saved a bunch of money with it doing work (carrying materials, disposing of scrap, etc. that I couldn't do with an EV.

    Any EV.
     
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    Hopefully the Supreme Court will rule against the EPA ruling to deindustrialize the US. A precedent has been set with the 2022 Supreme Court ruling that experts in government agencies cannot act using powers not granted by lawmakers. The tyranny of experts must be stopped.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/opini...he Biden administration,millions of Americans.
     
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    ICE vehicles will soon go the way of the flip-top phone. At some point, they will be considered a bad investment.
     
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    Not any time soon. There's nothing out there that's better at doing work. And that means all kinds of work. Mining, logging, trucking, cranes, hauling trailers, etc.

    And EVs really can't do any of that practically. It's their Achilles heel.
     
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    Productivity of an electric semi truck is less than 20% of a diesel.
     
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    Tesla Model Y towing a semi-truck (15,000 pounds). Imagine what an electric pickup could do.
     
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    ICEs and oil are much more heavily subsidized.
     
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    How far do you think that Model Y could get with that trailer. Remember, to pull that stupid stunt the motor's grunting at full bore. And the battery's draining at full bore, too.

    My guess is 5-10 miles max before the battery quit and had to be recharged.

    No, stupid parlor tricks prove nothing.
     
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    You're kidding, right?

    Name one actual subsidy for either ICEs or oil.

    Just one is all I need.
     
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    No they aren’t. We just went through this.
     
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    Yes, the Tesla semi truck has a max range of 500 miles. So far it's only good for limited range beverage delivery. And when it wears out, it can't be reconfigured for anything else. Nothing.

    A real truck can be fitted with 2 300 gallon fuel tanks for a range of 4800 miles- fully loaded. That's pretty much all the way around the country. And when it's too worn for that application, virtually every major component can be remanufactured and reconfigured for other applications, maintaining resale value for a very long time.

    I seriously doubt there will ever be a serious heavy truck EV market.
     
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    So what. That’s the same as a Tesla Model Y pulling three Tesla model Y’s.
     
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    Yeah, they seem to have forgotten that an actual fully loaded semi-truck and trailer can weigh 80,000-250,000 lbs.

    Idiots.
     
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    Yes. An empty trailer weighs between 10,000 and 15,000 pounds. A Tesla model Y weighs ~ 4500 pounds.
     
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    1. Federal, State, and Local agencies to dispose of hazardous wastes and radioactive waste from drilling and refining.
    2. Military escorts for all oil tankers traveling from the middle east to the US.
    3. From a mass transit standpoint (not EVs) - Road construction and maintenance funded by the General fund (sales tax revenue) or income tax. (mass transit users don't use the roads).
    4. Oil spill clean-up oversight, follow-up and repurcussions.
    ... and many more.

    Just one - sorry - got carried away.
     
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    What radioactive waste? What hazardous wastes? Oil companies pay for everything.

    What military escorts? How would that be a subsidy?

    How is road construction a subsidy?

    Oil companies for clean up from spills.
     

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