But they don't. Holy frejoles. Can I ask you a question? I know i won't get an honest answer but I want to ask you anyway. How can you look at yourself and make comments about something you do not understand? I realize that you believe that you do understand the subject but why don't you at least take my advice and look up the words 'atheist' and 'agnostic'. Even if you still don't understand the terms you will at least have tried. I am telling you this because you continue making the same mistakes over and over and it really is ridiculous to keep basing your convictions upon your own misconceptions. Let me give you a head start, OK? Believers: "There IS a God!" Atheists: "There is NO God!" Agnostic: "We DON'T KNOW one way or the other. We are waiting for proof that he does or he doesn't exist." So now you can you stop saying that agnosticism is an alternative definition of atheism. Right?
If you want to propose that "in the beginning" your god created the big bang, I'm fine with that. But, you go beyond that to say that the evidence we have of what has happened since then is totally false and that god has been diddling the universe constantly ever since - even though you have ZERO evidence. That's just totally ridiculous. Science is an important part of America, and simply discarding it is absolutely NOT acceptable as an approach to our future.
No, science does agree with what I said. And, this thread DOES have to do with YOUR best interests. So, if THAT is your measure of "politics", then you crossed the line long ago.
Slow down. Take a deep breath. Read again. I didn't say that agnosticism is an alternative definition of atheism. I'm saying, that..... some so-called "atheists" are encroaching on the definition of agnosticism by using some cockamamie definition such as, "lack of belief!" THEISTS: "There IS a God!" Atheists: "There is NO God!" Agnostic: "We DON'T KNOW one way or the other. We are waiting for proof that he does or he doesn't exist." I fully agree with you! That's the definition of atheism - the opposing belief of a theist! That's why it's "A-theist!" But there are those who are no longer comfortable to say that "there is no God," with a resounding conviction! I'm saying that those who equivocate, are no longer sure - their atheistic belief has cracked - they just don't want to accept that they're entertaining doubt, or maybe they just don't realise that doubt has entered into their picture.
Now....let's venture out of the Book of Genesis. Hebrews 11 3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. Let's talk about........ Atoms Practically everything in the physical world - from plant life, stars, animals, rocks, air, and water—is composed of building blocks known as atoms. Atoms are not visible. You can't see atoms with the naked eye. In fact..... http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20151120-how-do-we-know-that-things-are-really-made-of-atoms Thanks to modern science, we can say the particular Biblical statement above, can now be taken literally: ...things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
...things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. Things are made of something not visible! More than 2,000 years ago......why would anyone even make that kind of claim? The claimant couldn't have backed that claim..... ......and skeptics of the time would've naturally demanded, "prove it!"
The Bible has NOTHING to do with atoms.. Things not seen are supernatural things. You can't torture scripture into representing science.
Not necessarily. You can't see bacteria with your naked eyes, do you? You say they're supernatural? Do you know what supernatural is? IMMATERIAL. INTANGIBLE. Not when the author is talking within that context: things being made of something! No one says the Bible REPRESENTS science....... Don't torture yourself any farther.
(YLT) Genesis 1: "1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth -- 2 the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,"... Youngs Literal Translation is a literal translation direct from the language of original inscrption (Hebrew for OT) to english with as little presumption made as to meaning (in cases where translation loses meaning) as possible. As we can see in the first lines of The Bible, some things are different. God did not necessarily 'create' the universe, as the earth already 'hath existed' (perhaps He created it, but its non-specific and therefore presumably non-relevent to the purposes of The Bible). Perhaps God was born with the universe, a part of it as much as the matter and energy its made of.
Because they had read Greek Science from 500 years earlier! Seriously you have excelled yourself this time!
So the Atom actually predates the bible by 500 years on your time scale, Leucippus and Democritus Atoms (Leucippus and Democritus) Our senses suggest that matter is continuous. The air that surrounds us, for example, feels like a continuous fluid. (We do not feel bombarded by individual particles in the air.) The water we drink looks like a continuous fluid. (We can take a glass of water, divide it in halves, and repeat this process again and again, without appearing to reach the point at which it is impossible to divide it one more time.) Because our senses suggest that matter is continuous, it isn't surprising that the debate about the existence of atoms goes back as far as we can trace and continued well into this century. The first proponents of an atomic theory were the Greek philosophers Leucippus and Democritus who proposed the following model in the fifth century B.C. 1. Matter is composed of atoms separated by empty space through which the atoms move. 2. Atoms are solid, homogeneous, indivisible, and unchangeable. 3. All apparent changes in matter result from changes in the groupings of atoms. 4. There are different kinds of atoms that differ in size and shape. 5. The properties of matter reflect the properties of the atoms the matter contains. This model attracted few supporters among later generations of Greek philosophers. Aristotle, in particular, refused to accept the idea that the natural world could be reduced to a random assortment of atoms moving through a vacuum. http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/history/leucippus.html So the real question is what would the world look like today if science had not been stifled by the bible and its insane religion for a 1000 years?
The stretching space, the stretching universe. Job 9:8 He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea. Psalm 104:2 The LORD wraps himself in light as with a garment; he stretches out the heavens like a tent Isaiah 40:22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. Isaiah 42:5 This is what God the LORD says the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out, who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it Isaiah 44:24 This is what the LORD says your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself, Isaiah 45:12 It is I who made the earth and created mankind on it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts. Isaiah 51:13 that you forget the LORD your Maker, who stretches out the heavens and who lays the foundations of the earth, that you live in constant terror every day because of the wrath of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction? Jeremiah 10:12 But God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding. Jeremiah 51:15 He made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding. Zechariah 12:1 The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the human spirit within a person, declares: 2 I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. Heavens (plural form), is not to be confused with Heaven (God's kingdom) Heavens, is another word for the sky or the universe. It's what you see (and what you can no longer see), when you look up to the sky. What is the universe expanding into? (Intermediate) - Curious About Astronomy? Ask an Astronomer https://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/site/faq.html "Stretches the Heavens" (a description of the action, of what God does to the heavens)........ is consistent with science discovery that the universe is stretching.
i would have to disagree. I strongly believe that God, Science and Philosophy are intrinsically interwoven. Besides, the true definition of 'religion' is not Faith or belief but its true definition is: James 1:27 "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." religion: 2356. thréskeia: From a derivative of threskos; ceremonial observance -- religion, worshipping.
Produce a compilation of many "books" and thousands of pages and you will find apparent reference to anything you can imagine.
Let me take just one of those, -Genesis 3:14. "The Lord God said to the serpent, Because you have done this, cursed are you above all the cattle and all the living creatures of the field! On your belly you will crawl and dust you will eat all the days of your life." So we have a person who lives in an area known to have snakes, and he makes up the above statement in writing his fictional allegory. Your point is what?
Right. One of many problems with the bible. Unfortunately it's normal for devoted Xtians to be unable to study the writings of other religions and especially the writings of the mystics of every religion to grasp what they are saying so as to understand it as the writer meant it. If they did, they would have an entirely new understanding of their bible and one that would not present any issue for most atheists. It would also be a truly SPIRITUAL understanding, which is what the bible claims it's all about. Yet they don't see it.
Like as if the fact, that it's a compilation of different books, by different authors, from different time-lines.....isn't another evidence that they all came from the same Source. Here's a challenge to you..... Why don't you produce a single ancient book - as ancient as the Bible - that gives as many statement/declarations/claims, that are now proven, or supported by modern science!
There are lots of problems with the Bible, anachronisms, contradictions, locations that are wrong.. There nothing in science that supports the Bible's supernatural tales..
You don't get the point?????? No offense.....but all this time, you don't even get what I'm driving at - this topic obviously, must be way above your head. Sorry, but I don't have the time to spoon-feed anyone.
Let's do a recap of the verses that are supported or confirmed by modern science. Page 1: The Beginning Earth was covered with water (Genesis 1:2) Light from the sun (Genesis 1:3) One huge ocean, one supercontinent (Genesis 1: 9-10) Origin of life and one-celled organisms in water (Genesis 1: 20-21) From fins.....to wings? (Genesis 1:20-21) Genders and asexual creatures (Genesis 1: 24-27) Page 3: The Human body (Genesis 2: 7) The Snake (Genesis 3:14) Page 5: Man's dominion (Genesis 3) Page 7: Atoms Stretching Universe/Space ------------------------------------- Matthew Fontaine Maury is known as the Pathfinder of the Seas, for his role in developing wind and charts on 1847, the predecessor of today's NGA's Pilot Chart Atlas. Psalm 8 was the most known verse that gave him inspiration. PATHS OF THE SEAS Psalm 8 8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Fontaine_Maury http://msi.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/St...tthewMaury.pdf Matthew Maury | Survivor Library ‘Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!’
Lets do a recap of what you have avoided repling to, you asked a question here, The answer was simple, the Greeks were already aware of it! No acknowledgement, you simply carry on with your blog!
