The Darwin Party

Oooh, you will be on his list, when the Storm comes, ya know...

 

Yeah, who wants representation and proper governance.

 

The government doesn't like my version of intelligent and doesn't agree with me, our current government wants to dumb down the population. That is why I want to create the Darwin Party, so my ideas can be democratically elected by the people.

 

Parents and partner, Yes they agree with me 100%. Friends, yes some of them, but most of my friends are genetically inferior so if I told them they would think my ideas are crazy, so I only tell my best friends, who agree with me for the most part.

 

I cannot prove that god in general does not exist, but I can prove that your version of god does not exist. I assume you are christian.

In the bible it says "God is love"
Innocent children die of leukemia all the time.
Therefore one of two options are available.
Either god is a sadistic jerk that let's children die painful agonizing deaths, and the bible is wrong.
Or he does not exist.

You choose.

 

Oh gawd no... not the cosmic tea pot! Talk about retro think!

Ok with that out of the way...

Nothing can be proved to an accuracy of 100%. Nothing is one hundred percent certain either!
Can you prove Piltdown man exists? Science said so for 40 years! Can science prove quantum particles exist? No they are theoretical entities. Why did science accept string theory when it made no verifiable predictions for decades and may not have even now. Is there a double standard in science? Yes.

Can you be fried to a crisp due to circumstantial evidence proving beyond a reasonable doubt that you are guilty? HEL Oh yes! I can prove that God exists beyond a reasonable doubt, however an professional debater can do a better job than I. The problem is that even with wonderful evidences an atheist will deny deny deny! THEY MUST! Because they have backed themselves into a corner! They claim that they do not have to defend their paradigm either, that we should just assume they are correct! No evidences not even circumstantial evidences. No cosmological or other ontological arguments to support the validity of their model of reality or of how their universe works! Ha ha don’t get me started unless you want an education in how much the atheist paradigm is lacking, with all due respect.

Now do not get me wrong, I love my moderate atheist friends, for the most part they are morally and ethically endowed. I have issues with the MA's ie the malicious atheists who’s main goal in life is to destroy Christianity and bash Christians on forums such as this one. But I still love em‘, I just abhor their ways. Anyway I suppose I am done for the moment. Hey read this article its a preemptive intellectual strike ...

Excerpt from article ; So understood, such an alleged presumption is clearly mistaken. For the assertion that “There is no God” is just as much a claim to knowledge as is the assertion that “There is a God.” Therefore, the former assertion requires justification just as the latter does. It is the agnostic who makes no knowledge claim at all with respect to God’s existence. He confesses that he doesn’t know whether there is a God or whether there is no God.
But when you look more closely at how protagonists of the presumption of atheism used the term “atheist,” you discover that they were defini

 

@Rev.

I am not sure you understand the difference between a scientific theory, and just a theory.

Here is a theory.

All life on the planet was created by alien scientists, we are their experiment.

Here is a scientific theory - evolution.

The difference is huge.

One is tested over and over and over, peer reviewed, and can be taken as fact.

The other isn't.

The same applies to thousands of gods.

It is just a theory.

Like the alien scientists.

 

But none of that proves your personal god exists.

Incredible claims need incredible evidence.

The bible, all the holy books, they are fables.

Genesis - a talking snake. That was punished by being made to 'crawl around on it's belly', which I would have taken a snake to do, anyway.

They don't eat 'the dirt' though.

Of course, smart Christians will then tell you, no no, the Bible is partial allegory, and that was an allegory. They need to do this, imo, to cover the more absurd claims. If you rebrand them as allegories, you can get away with going on with them. Of course, one then needs to ask if Jesus himself, and the Christian belief that he was the son of god, but also his own father(!), is also an allegory.

See, no one says for sure, it is not like there are a list of footnotes that determine actual account from allegory.

There are so many mistakes and contradictions in the bible, that one must conclude that it was merely the works of relatively primative men, and not some all genius god.

 

As I said no evidence will convince an atheist that already has his mind made up. You are ignoring my claims, and most of my rebuttals, which may be a wise move considering your somewhat obtuse remarks. I have pointed out that science is no more accurate in some instances than, well, a con man. In a thousand years our best science will be quaint myth. That should tell you the science of today that you base your ideas of reality and truth on is likley not true! Science doesn't have a very good track record eh? It must be able to be wrong to be right, amazing stuff eh? Don’t mistake my distrust for some science for thinking I hate it. No I am a amateur naturalist, and a serious amateur astronomer. The difference is that I realize the limits and the propensity of science to be wrong, while you seem not to.

However I am tiring of you malicious slurs so I am afraid I will have to sling some mud in self defense eh? he first of that mud will hit you square in your simple claims about Christianity, religion and metaphysics. You seem to be stuck in 1920s scopes monkey trial thinking (which the creationist won btw). When it comes to modern theology. I spent many years in school learning too much philosophy and other advanced subjects finally earning an MA in comparative theology to allow your less than accurate comments. I was like you as a high school grad. However I was astounded as a apostate atheist as I learned what the bible really said and meant. The ontological arguments and new Christian apologists produced and revamped cosmological arguments such as the KCA arguing for the existence of God in a convincing manner. Arguments that have NEVER been defeated. So first before you attempt to critique religion with such devastating rebuttals employing ancient wives tales and comparisons that belong in the scopes trial, PLEASE learn a bit of contemporary theology or go to Church and ask the big guy for help so you can intelligently discuss the issues and the subject.

In the meantime may I suggest a relaxing read?

Rev A

 

HAHAHAHAHAH!

No you can't.

 

Can too! Ha ha... I love your intellegent one line wonder rebuttals...

Rev A

 

So you can prove that God exists but you can't count to 2?

 

Not true.

Let me hear your evidence.

 

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It'll be some variation of one, or more, of the following.


The Bible says so.
God says so.
People hear voices and that's God.
I hear God.
Science says evolution made life through nothing but random chance and that's just silly.
I don't understand science so it's wrong.
God is perfect as are his designs like humans.
The laryngeal nerve was placed like that to test your faith!
Darwin repented on his death bed.

 

Yes.

If he is able to prove god, then he is going to do something that no other has ever been able to do, and few try.

Good luck to him;


Religion is partly a gap filler.

It gave primative men answers to questions, in a format that was easy for them to understand. It filled gaps. Something unexplained happens - god did it, it must have been a miracle(sic).

If god can heal the sick, and it says he does in the bible, why doesn't he heal amputees?

Why are they never deserving?

 

This is a flat out lie. No one has ever proven any god or gods exist. Debating has nothing to do with EVIDENCE and FACT, it has to do with using logic to confuse, twist and control the judgement of others. Debaters take the same set of facts and PROVE opposite points. The REAL fact is that in over 50,000 years of the existence of mankind, there is not one fact or iota of evidence to indicate a god exists, let alone to prove it.

 

I am beginning to believe that reincarnation might be a valid concept. Is it possible that Hitler may be alive and well in a new body?