The Grim Reality of Covid-19 - A Dire Warning to us All!

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Disclaimer: I am going to post the entire Twitter thread in the OP because EVERYONE needs to read for themselves what is actually happening right now in Italy. This is just too IMPORTANT to edit IMO. If I am infracted then sobeit but the message OVERRIDES everything else and should be read by ALL PF Members.

    https://twitter.com/silviast9/status/1236933818654896129

    Complacency and incompetence are killers.
     
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    So again what do you want done that isn't already being done?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The OP is not an isolated one.

    Here is the link to another;

    https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538

     
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    Curious to note that no one is commenting on the above even though it is being viewed.

    Perhaps because it is a sobering look at the reality we could be facing in the near future?

    Hard to deny the words of the doctors dealing with it themselves and even harder to pretend that we here in the States are even remotely prepared to deal with something of this magnitude.

    However it would be the height of foolish arrogance to presume that we are not just as susceptible to this happening as Italy, South Korea, Iran and China.
     
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    The person that you are quoting is writing as if the world is coming to an end. That clearly is not the case. One can easily find Chicken Littles in this whole situation, as well as your Dr Drew's of the world who are entirely downplaying the virus and its accompanying dangers as anything that out of the ordinary in comparison to the the yearly flu epidemic. I think that most people probably opt for a middle of the road analysis.

    He keeps talking about bilateral interstitial pneumonia. That does not mean that the virus is causing Interstitial pneumonia. It means that people with interstitial pneumonia are the ones that are going into ICU as a result of this virus. FWIW....people with interstitial pneumonia (which is typically pulmonary fibrosis) have a life expectancy between 2 and 3 years in the absence of the Corona virus. If one were to be around people with interstitial pneumonia all day long in an ICU unit, it would be easy to have the perspective that this illness is the end of the world. Unfortunately for most people with interstitial pneumonia, their remaining life looks bleak with or without the Corona virus. With that being said, I think that it is counterproductive to present that disease state as if that is a risk for society as a whole as a result of the Corona virus. Such an interpretation is fear mongering of the highest order.
     
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    Honestly. I read the OP and all I get was fear mongering. Italy closed its boarders because they can. Then what? The weather changes, folks stop being ill because of the cold, and then what? Is the OP suggesting that the US shut our boarders? Now that's rich given their history of posting... But sure, that's in the offing here, ostensibly.

    Then what? The us shuts down it's boarders? To what end? I always get nervous when liberals start talking about shutting down liberty. You know they believe it's in their purview to do it, because they don't actually believe in freedoms. Just their needs and feelz....
     
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    Except for the part where the infection rate is dropping.

    Like in South Korea, where it's declined for 4 days in a row.
     
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    They don't want a solution.

    The left never really does.

    They just want something new to complain about, as usual.
     
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    I gather that you missed the point ENTIRELY!

    Closing the borders right now would be the kind of meaningless feel good partisan idiocy that I would expect of the Cretin-in-Chief. It would accomplish exactly NOTHING as far dealing with the impending crisis is concerned.

    What DOES NEED TO BE DONE is to stop all events where Covid-19 can spread. There needs to be CONTAINMENT zones defined around ALL of the outbreaks and travel authorized to and from these zones. Hospitals in these zones need to be stocked up with the necessary medications and treatments to deal with the most severe cases. Medical service personal need to be provided with backups from the military.

    All of the above should be moving into place NOW so as to MINIMIZE the RISK of what is happening in Italy from occurring here.

    This is a NONPARTISAN threat to the American People.

    It needs to be taken SERIOUSLY otherwise We the People will end up PAYING for these FAILURES with our LIVES.
     
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    Neo-Communism

    Only through total control can you be saved. Submit now, resistance is futile...
     
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    The solution is basically communism. Just ask them for steps they would start taking and you'll be doing 60 in no time towards the USSR.
     
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    I'm not much afraid at all.

    I'm scared as hell of Ebola virus and flesh eating Vibrio bac-T, but not of coronavirus-19.

    It's less than flu. An average of less than three dropping dead per day in the USA. It's not complicated at all.
     
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    Leftists love stuff like this because it gives them hope of meglomaniacal governmental population control.
    Sure.

    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/heal...virus-south-korea-cuts-infection-rate-without

    https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/china-coronavirus-covid-19-deaths-18-feb/

    https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/...ases-of-covid-19-for-a-third-consecutive-day/
     
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    He mentioned the infection rate dropping in South Korea and you give a link to the United States to dispute his assertion?...That is a strange response to say the least. On the bright side, you can click on South Korea from your link and it does in fact show that the infection rate is dropping in South Korea.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/
     
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    So what’s your point? Be very afraid? Panic? Buy toilet paper? Lol
     
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    It’s a bad cold to 99% of us. This is not the Black Plague. Just because Italy is panicking doesn’t mean we should.
     
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    I see.

    When I could stop myself from laughing, I was able to break your "idea" down:

    1. We should not close down the borders, that is stupid
    2. We should close down all zones where an outbreak has occurred and restrict travel to and from these zones

    Unreal.
     
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    I guess we should stay home and lock the doors and shoot any infected zombies that attempt to get in.
     
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    Obviously you FAILED to read your own links again!

    They support MY POSITION about the needs for CONTAINMENT in order to reduce infection rates and deaths.

    Sad!
     
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    It's like the left's brain is at war with itself.

    Suggesting we shouldn't close down the borders, but should close down travel to and from infection areas has to be one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen anyone say.

    I'm at a total loss to even respond to that. It's like my synapses shut down to protect themselves from the ridiculousness.
     
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    The point is that this a SERIOUS issue and it needs an EFFECTIVE response ASAP if we want to AVOID ending up like Italy.
     
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    Right, and the best way to contain it is to keep the international border open.

    If it wasn't so shocking I'd be laughing.
     
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    Hope you don't hurt yourself patting yourself on your back for refuting your own vacuous strawman.

    Sad!
     

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