The gun control thread

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Vegas giants, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you should cease accusing people of lying about their goals and intentions.
     
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    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    I’m here to debate ideas, I have no problem with others opinions about gun laws and regulations.
    I have a problem with a poster saying I have no right to be on this forum because I don’t live up to his arbitrary expectations. Who died and made him the almighty?
     
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    So wait.....you don't even know if anyone is doing this plan? Why?
     
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    not relevant because our society is far different. most of those societies have gun bans.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Toronto doesn't have a gun ban.

    Iceland doesn't have a gun ban.

    England doesn't have a gun ban.

    Berlin doesn't have a gun ban.

    Paris doesn't have a gun ban.
     
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    why you don't know? I am not the one who feels a need to harass lawful gun owners with more laws. if your REAL GOAL was crime control, why aren't you supporting the most sensible way to control crime-TARGET CRIMINALS?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    gun laws aren't "harrassment".

    jeeez.
     
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    OMG That is a whopper

    England bans ALL HANDGUNS

    all magazine fed semi auto rifles
    all magazine shotguns
     
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    gun laws that harass honest gun owners are

    why do you say stuff that is blatantly contrary to reality
     
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    can I use your quote

    ENGLAND DOESN'T HAVE A GUN BAN AS MY SIGNATURE?
     
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    so shotguns and rifles without magazines are allowed?

    looks like I was right, England doesn't ban guns.
     
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    a "gun ban" means they ban guns.

    Guns are not banned in England, as many folks own guns in that nation.
     
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    If you have no further evidence for your plan I am happy to accept your concession
     
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    that is not truthful. England bans 90% or more of the guns that Americans can own
     
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    Name one of these wonderful societies who’s gun laws in entirety are compatible with our 2A.
    There are plenty of countries that have all but banned guns, making it nearly impossible to purchase firearms for self defense.

    If you want us to adopt gun policies of other countries, you better start a movement to repeal the 2A, and then wave a wand to remove a majority of the 320 million firearms in the US.
     
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    it is truthful.

    a "gun ban" means guns are banned. citizens cannot own guns.

    rifles and shotguns that don't use seperate magazine are legal for ownership in England

    According to the most recent figures for England and Wales, there are 138,728 people certificated to hold firearms and they own 435,383 weapons. There are 574,946 shotgun certificates which cover 1.4 million shotguns.


    so tell us more about this so-called "gun ban" in England.
     
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    the issue is if gun laws contribute to a safer society.
     
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    none of the laws designed to harass honest gun owners do. in fact they often make things less safe. there are documented cases of stalked women who were forced to wait to buy a gun who were killed by their stalkers before they could get their gun.
     
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    do you believe the claim that England HAS NOT BANNED GUNS?
     
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    there are hundreds of thousands of personally owned guns in England.

    so no gun ban.
     
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    You antis keep crowing about how other countries have superior gun laws. I’m saying if you want to reduce gun violence down to the levels of these countries that you compare us to, then you have to be willing to adopt their laws in entirety. Otherwise you can’t expect similar results.
     
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    the laws are not designed to harrass anyone.

    the more you repeat this, the more concerned I am
     
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    Can you name me a country that has reduced gun violence by strong enforcement of laws?
     
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    These restrictionists would say there is no ban as long as the government allows you to own one six shot revolver.
     
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    Do you want to reduce gun deaths to their levels?
     

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