The Latest: House won't vote to formalize impeachment probe

How do they decide who’s on which committee? How do they decide which harassed staffer gets paid off?

 

There ya go.... We are currently in the first section in bold...

Republicans are whining as if we are in the 2nd section in bold...

We are not

 

The committees don't make decisions, they make recommendations and work out process details.

You guys go ahead and do your little star chamber thing. I'm sure Adam Schiff's towering intellect will get you through this.

 

Don't worry... he'll explain it all to ya'll in tiny words and repeatable catch phrases..... you won't get (too) lost....

When he's ready...

 

You should be spending your time making "Schiff Time" memes then, so we can all have another good laugh later.

 

That is 100% incorrect. The House prepares the Indictment (decides to impeach) and the Trial (guilty or not guilty) is held in the Senate presided over by a Member of SCOTUS.

At this stage, a House Committee is merely investigating. When/if it is satisfied there is suffficient evidence (a prima facie case, if you like) then the House will be asked to decide whether to sign the Indictment (the act of impeachment) and then the matter is off to the Senate. (Yes I have adapted legal terms to make my point.)

 

I know you guys speak in meme's but I'm not sure how to make those, so I'll use my words instead....

Feel free to fire up a "Giuliani Time" meme if you'd like though, since it's possible he'll be doing some eventually...

 

Again, 100% incorrect. The House merely charges....the Trial (where witnesses can be cross-examined) will be held in the Senate.

 

We know the left can't figure out memes.

You keep making predictions. I mean, according to statistics, you'll have to eventually be at least partially right.

 

He's delaying the impeachment process? Not surprising.

 

What criminals are you referring to?

Which laws have been broken?

This is all about leftist feelings, always an emotional group, but there has to be some hard evidence before the country goes through the turmoil of impeachment. If so it will be the Russians who have won.

Is this really good for the country or is it petty revenge for Hillary losing the election? Why not let the people decide next November?

 

The Democrats in DC are lying, not surprising, but what's surprising is that people actually believe them.

As you say, any 'quid pro quo' is out in the open. 'You look into corruption and we'll look into corruption', normally a great quid pro quo. But leftists are now wanting impeachment because their President wants an investigation into political corruption!!!

This is a sad case of advanced stupidity and no nation can long survive this depth of ignorance..

 

You're spot on, of course, but leftists will not understand this simple concept.

 

Nor will they respond.

 

Wrong, the House decides the President committed impeachable acts and impeaches him. And forever that impeachment stands. Bill Clinton remains an impeached President the House vote he committed the acts for which he was impeached.

The Senate has ONE judgement to make, whether to remove the Preisdent for the acts for which he was impeached. If they decide not to the President remains impeached. In Clinton's case the Democrats in the Senate said perjury, subornation of perjury and obstruction of justice for which he was impeached did not rise to the level of removal. They did NOT, as a jury would, vote he did not commit the acts for which he was impeached.

This is NOT a judicial action, this is NOT a court and does not follow those procedures.

 

NO, we had that investigation, there are NO charges of obstruction of justice that were brought to the Congress quite the contrary the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General and the DOJ Office of Legal Counsel agreed, no obstruction of justice.

There are no charges now and no impeachable offenses. That is why this is all being done in secret and in violation of precedent.

 

OK then let's investigate Biden and the rest of the Democrat candidates for "potential crimes". That's a lot of Special Counsels but I guess we can manage. Hey you just said it is OK for a President to investigate the political opposition, well what's good for Obama is good for Trump so call off the Democrats.

Presidents personally ask leaders of other countries for all sorts of things and even put conditions on them.

Into a probable cause of corruption by a former high level government official. Is Biden above the law? Again you have no problem with the Obama administration investigating Trump even using information their political ally bought and paid for originating from Russia and through a foreign agent. Trump ask them to abide by TREATY to cooperate with our DOJ to investigate the origins of the Russian attempts to influence the election, the "favor", and then into what Biden was bragging about in an extortion and using US taxpayer dollars to do it.

But HEY let's have a Special Prosecutor look into it like we did with Trump. Take Trump out of it.

 

Nope an indictment is brought to the House, the House decides if the acts occurred and if so impeaches the person, finds they committed them. Judgement in the Senate is solely to remove or not for the impeachment.

It is for the HOUSE as a whole to decide to be at this stage as is established precedent.

 

We are (almost) in heated agreement. The Senate has the job of determining whether the Articles of Impeachment are established or not. If they do so find, then it is automatic (ipso facto) that Trump is removed from Office.

From the Constitution:

 

No, this time "The Schiff is gonna hit the fan!!" #SHTF.

"It's Mueller time" is so 2019.

 

Maybe you could double impeach him.

 

NO THEY AREN'T and THAT is one of the points. They are prohibited. They can't even call a witness nor directly ask questions of the witnesses. The President has not legal counsel present as in the Nixon and Clinton impeachments. The Democrats are sitting on the transcripts and selectively leaking and we are all well aware of the lies and deceptions under which Schiff acts including his totally false reading of the transcript which is being included in the move to censure and remove him from the committee. He is running a secret inquisition and that is NOT how the founding fathers envisioned the very serious matter of impeaching a President.

 

The guilty should be in "" too because that is not what the Senate actually finds. The House finds if the President is guilty of the charges and if so impeach him. He is forever impeached for the acts. All the Senate decides is whether to remove from office. In the Clinton impeachment all the action was in the House. That is where evidence was presented and testimony given and the decision made whether Clinton committed these felonies that were presented to them. When it went to the Senate the Democrats forced a 3 day limit and only 3 witnesses by video. All the evidence was placed in a secure room so the Senators could go and view it. Not one did. They spent their time debating whether they could just censor him instead of removing and no the Constitution does not allow that. Then whether such crimes rise to the level of removal from office. The Democrats all voted "not guilty" but that was not because the believe he did not commit the acts they just didn't want to remove him. And that did not wipe out or eliminate and make the impeachment go away, he remains an impeached President for those acts he committed.

 

There's nothing difficult here there are no impeachable offenses in the transcript.

 

It's Mueller redux, a Groundhog Day remake with Maxine Waters in the lead role repeatedly yelling, "Impeach 45, Impeach 45!". Different year, month and day but it's the same tiresome "Impeach" bullschiff over and over again. What a tiresome bunch of nitwits leftists are.