The moral of the story is, Trump won again!

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    Sorry, your wrong, they are moving that plant back to the U.S.

    Fiat Chrysler will move Ram production to Michigan from Mexico
    https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/news/companies/fiat-chrysler-tax...
    Jan 11, 2018 · Fiat Chrysler said it will add 2,500 jobs in Michigan to support the move. The company also said it's giving one-time $2,000 bonuses to 60,000 U.S. workers.
     
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    1.We are the ones who voted for Trump.

    2. His economy. His handling of ISIS and the Middle East. His change in handling illegals in his last two years in office.

    3. Pretty close to where it is now.

    4. Here is a partial list of what he's done and manufacturing jobs coming back


    Blue-collar jobs are growing at their fastest rate in more than 30 years, helping fuel a hiring boom in many small towns and rural areas that are strong supporters of President Trump ahead of November's mid-term elections.


    Jobs in goods-producing industries — mining, construction, and manufacturing — grew 3.3 percent in the year preceding July, the best rate since 1984, according to a Washington Post analysis.

    Blue collar jobs, long a small and shrinking part of the U.S. Economy, are now growing at a faster clip than those in America's much larger service economy. Many factors collided to produce the blue collar boom. Some are tied to short-term boom-and-bust cycles, but others may endure. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/under-trump-the-jobs-boom-has-finally-
    Reached-blue-collar-workers-will-it-last/AR-BBN5wLL


    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/real-change...
    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump. By ... The VA Mission Act is designed to create effective fixes for these ... This bill does real good. House Veterans Affairs Committee ...


    Trump Sworn In: Corrupt VA Employees Are Finally Fired
    https://theblacksphere.net/2017/01/trump-sworn-in-corrupt-va...
    Leftist America realizes that Trump doesn't mince words. While Obama promised to fix the VA and did nothing, Trump fires VA employees...


    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. …
    https://www.axios.com/trump-losing-patience-with-va-secretary...
    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. Shulkin. Shulkin (L) at a cabinet meeting last week. Photo: Michael Reynolds-Pool/Getty Images. It took a few weeks to land on his radar, but President Trump now views Veterans Affairs Sec. David Shulkin as a major problem. Trump has been telling associates he doesn't know what's …


    Trump Claims Victory on Spending at NATO Summit,
    https://news.antiwar.com/2018/07/12/trump-claims-victory-on...
    Nations Will Spend Another $33 Billion on Militaries Jason Ditz Posted on July 12, 2018 July 12, 2018 Categories News Tags France, NATO, Trump President Trump has come out of the NATO summit and his flurry of demands on NATO spending with a

    Trump get 5 political prisoners released by Turkey and N. Korea and gave up nothing to do it.

    Trump announces new US trade deal with Mexico and Canada
    [​IMG]
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-announces-us-trade-deal...
    President Donald Trump teased a "big deal" on trade with Mexico Monday, in a reference to ongoing negotiations to revise the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

    Newscentermaine.com | Why Apple is bringing billions back home
    www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/nation-now/...
    A second corporate campus, an additional 20,000 workers and a $350 billion commitment. That's Apple's pledge to the U.S. As the tech giant announced a sweeping set of moves Wednesday to bring back billions of its offshore cash and spur economic growth. The plan also includes paying $38 billion in taxes


    Obama Flashback: Jobs NOT Coming Back Under Trump
    https://conservativetribune.com/obama-jobs-not-back-trump
    Obama Flashback: Jobs NOT Coming Back Under Trump. ... A man named Eric Cunningham said he noticed manufacturing jobs were ... CNN Has Just Gone

    LG Electronics

    Building U.S. Factory After President Trump Criticism ...

    Fortune.com/2017/02/28/lg-electronics-us-factory/
    Feb 28, 2017 - LG rival Samsung Electronics was also considering building a U.S. Manufacturing plant as a response to criticisms about imports from Trump,

    ExxonMobil


    On March 6, CEO Darren Woods said the company is investing $20 billion in Gulf Coast manufacturing operations over 10 years, creating 45,000 jobs.

    Charter Communications


    On March 24, Charter Communications announced plans to invest $25 billion in the United States and to hire 20,000 American workers in the next four years.

    U.S. Steel: 10,000 Jobs


    Next, during a December 7 broadcast of CNBC’s Power Lunch, the CEO of U.S. Steel Mario Longhi said that after the election of Donald Trump, he has “felt an environment of positive optimism where forces are converging to provide for a better environment,” which he hopes means he can rehire up to 10,000 employees who had been laid off.

    IBM: 25,000 Jobs


    A week after U.S. Steel noted its bullish outlook on the U.S. Economy, computing giant IBM also found its outlook had brightened and reported that it expects to create up to 25,000 new jobs in the U.S.

    Hasbro

    Is to start making play-doh in the U.S. Again.
    U.S. Hasbro, Inc. Is returning to the U.S. And will make the beloved children’s modeling clay in a Massachusetts factory rather than in China or Turkey.

    Toyota and Mazda

    To build $1.6 billion factory in the U.S ...

    Money.CNN.com/2017/08/04/news/economy/Mazda-Toyota-jobs-factory...
    Aug 04, 2017 · Toyota and Mazda have announced plans to build a $1.6 billion manufacturing plant in the United States that will create as many as 4,000 jobs.

    Fiat

    Chrysler Is Moving a Plant From Mexico to Michigan ...
    Fortune.com/2018/01/12/fiat-Chrysler-Michigan-Mexico-nafta
    Fiat Chrysler said it will shift Ram pickup truck production from Mexico to Michigan, lowering risk if President Trump pulls out of NAFTA.

    Apple

    Creates 2,000 jobs shifting production back to US ...
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/05/apple-creates...
    Apple creates 2,000 jobs shifting production back to US ... Engineering and construction jobs at a new plant in ... The first Macintosh computer made in America since ...

    Bayer AG (ADR)

    Bayer representatives announced that as part of their purchase of Monsanto, they were committing to keeping Monsanto’s 9,000 U.S. Jobs in the country, plus adding 3,000 new high-tech jobs for American workers.

    Ford Motor Company (NYSE:F)

    Ford Motor Company had been planning to build a $1.6 billion factory in Mexico.
    Instead, the company announced it was cancelling the Mexican car factory and added that it would invest $700 million to expand its Flat Rock Michigan factory. The money will go toward manufacturing high-tech electric, hybrid and autonomous cars and adds 700 U.S. Jobs.

    Hyundai Motor Co



    The South Korean auto maker announced it will boost its spending in the U.S. By 50% over planned levels, spending $3.1 billion over the next five years.

    That money will go to retooling Hyundai’s existing U.S. Factories and research into high-tech systems such as autonomous vehicles. Hyundai said it is also considering building a new factory specifically to build premium vehicles for the U.S. Market.

    The company didn’t give specific number for job creation, but with that kind of expenditure — and the possibility of a new factory — it’s definitely going to be more jobs for American workers.


    It's Chinese-made in America.


    "My production cost per ton of textiles is 25 percent lower [there]."

    In addition, he said, wages for him in China have been increasing 30 percent each year for much of the past decade. He has pledged $220 million to build and expand a facility in South Carolina and plans to eventually move the entire business to the U.S. Where he plans to employ more than 500 people by the end of the year.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apos-made-china-apos-could-042148976.html



    Intel, in Show of Support for Trump, Announces Factory in Arizona
    https://www.nytimes.com/.../trump-intel-chip-factory-arizona.html

    Feb 08, 2017 · “The people of Arizona will be very happy. It’s a lot of jobs,” President Trump said after
    Intel chief meets with Trump about plan to create 3,000 manufacturing jobs in Arizona

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/8/intels-brian-krzanich-announces-plan-3000-jobs/


    South Korea Agrees to 30% Reduction in Steel, Accepts ...
    https://iotwreport.com/south-korea-agrees-to-30-reduction-in-steel...
    South Korea Agrees to 30% Reduction in Steel, Accepts Doubling of U.S. Autos, Accepts 20 Year Extension on Truck Tariff ... South Korea gets two year exemption from a 25% U.S. steel tariff, but must drop steel export level to 70% of prior two years shipments. ... United States Achievement of Going to the Moon Removed From Idiotic


    China agrees to take American beef imports againQuartz
    https://qz.com/789028/china-agrees-to-take-american-beef-imports-again
    China in 2003 stopped importing
    most US beef products after a mad cow disease scare in the American market. At the time, it was buying about $10 million each year in US beef. Since then, the country’s rising middle class has started consuming more meat products.

    Trump Signs Bill Allowing Terminally Ill Patients to Try ...
    https://sputniknews.com/us/201805301064953088-trump-bill-patients...
    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - US President Donald Trump on Wednesday signed the Right to Try Act, a bill that allows terminally ill people who did not get results from traditional treatment options to use certain unapproved drugs.

    4. Not sure, but I don't think he'll lose as many seats as the usually do in mid term elections.
     
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    Lib tears are just an amusing bonus. Although it was kind of of entertaining to watch them preform like side show freaks, screeching at the Presidents every utterance, it's gotten way out of hand at this point.

    Far more important, Trump is making sure the left doesn't succeed in neutering our men and turning our women into demigods.
    Letting the world know, that America is no longer going to be playing Sugar Daddy to countries can afford to pay their own way.
    Keeping American's safe from hostile invasion that the libs claim we have a moral duty to facilitate.

    Showing up, day after day, fine tuning the vision of a more prosperous America, despite the ridicule, disrespect and opposition like no other President in my life time has ever had to deal with...

    No matter what he does Libs will hate him,call him a loser and go right on worshiping the Kaitlin Jenner's of the world, like the sad, frustrated, angry little eunuchs that they are. We will just keep on winning despite the microaggression collectors! :D
     
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    Depends upon perspective. Trump's a neutered man, really. He has to buy women's affections, scant though those affections obviously must be. Minimum affection, maximum profit. A Trump style trade deal.

    The myth of America bleeding money to all others is too stupid to bother addressing but it does obfuscate the craven foreign policies which wantonly murders and supports the murder of countless others, done strikes way up under Trumpy and all, so has its uses beyond giving trumpkin's a bullet point.

    Keeping America safe from hostile invasion? That sounds like a 14 year old's video game.

    Then again it's certainly been invaded by a kind of hazy, retarded Eastern European neo nazi sentiment so maybe you have a point there.
     
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    Is Nato laughing that they have to pay more?

    NATO is not paying more, Trump wants them to pay what they pledged.

    Is Mexico laughing bcause of a new deal?

    The out going President made the deal and the in coming new President may not keep.

    Is Canada laughing?

    Canada was forced to open their small market to the US huge dairy industry. That does not mean Canadians are going to buy US milk products over Canadian. The bully tactic wins.


    Is China laughing?

    China is not hurting. China owns 1 Trillion in US Debt. We better not piss China off.

    Is Iran laughing?

    So far Iran has not violated the deal. If Iran can hold on till 2020, they could resume the deal.

    What Trump should have done was to work on the next 10 years after the first deal. To work on what had already been achieved.

    Trump just can't stand anything with Obama's name on it.
     
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    China is not hurting?

    LMAO.
    It's stock market has crashed for starters.


    Or what?

    Or you don't have to give the Trillion back?


    The tail doesn't wag the dog mate.
     
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    And you are still buying the hogwash that the left is still trying to shove into your head?

    Lowest unemployment in 60 years, including rates for minorities.
    More jobs open and hiring than there are people on unemployment.
    102 stock market records in 102 weeks.
    America has overtaken Saudi Arabia as the worlds No 1 oil producer.
    America has taken back (from China) the title of fastest growing economy in the world.

    That's the very, very short list, the long one is around 100 items.

    Do you want lip service- or results?
    Who has the blind eye?
     
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    Yes, because they were afraid free trade with Mexico was going to end, and they would be hit with tarriffs that would make production in Mexico cost too much.

    And lets not forget that there are still 4 factories in Chijna, a bunch in Canada, some in Europe and China and a few in South America.

    And is a one time $2000 bonus supposed to mean something? Their CEO gets a $100,000,000+ bonus, even when the companies is basically going bankrupt. That's why they needed a bailout, because their scumbag executives ran their company into the ground and then begged for money, and then used that money to pay executives' bonuses and fired hundreds of thousands of workers. So is spending $120,000 dollars on a useless publicity stunt supposed to mean something?
     
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    =Win!
     
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    America can't stand anything with Obama's name on it.

    That's why Obama lost 12 Senate seats, about 60 House seats, several Governor's seats, and 900+ State House seats.

    Oh... And thats a big reason why Trump won over Obama's POTUS pick.
     
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    Is this what you do? stealing people's money....mate?

    You don't know how credit work at all, do you.
     
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    Why is Trump's clothing line still made outside the US? Why did Carrier layoff more employees and transfer the work to Mexico? Why does Trump still apply every year to bring in 2-HB Visa workers for his country clubs? Why is IBM sending jobs out of country?? or General Electric??

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/american-companies-sent-jobs-overseas.html/
     
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    Since the Chinese stock market did not crash, I'll take your whole post as hyperbole.
     
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    Trump had a chance to run...head to head against Obama, and did not.

    Trump won because he promised Rust belt state voters he was going to bring back manufacturing jobs and coal mining jobs. They took a chance on Trump.

    Hillary Clinton lost. Obama was not on the ballot.

    Trump has a record now. The people in those Rust belt states will decide if Trump delivered for them.

    Hillary and Obama will not be on the ballot in 2020.
     
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    Theres probably a lot of alleged this and that already on the court.

    We just didn't hear about it before because TDS wasn't guiding politics before.
     
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    If dealing with the broad thrust of points is too dishonest for you to contemplate, you may of course wish to try and nitpick your way out of them by examining the detail.
    Or you could just put your head back in the sand and blindly refute all reality. Which I think is your preference.

    https://www.ft.com/content/d67abbec-b4cb-11e8-bbc3-ccd7de085ffe

    China stocks slump as investors brace for next US tariff hit


    https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/995793/chinese-stock-market-crash-business-tech

    https://www.thenational.ae/business...ady-for-a-chinese-stock-market-crash-1.761426
     
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    Better than you do mate. So very much, much better than you.

    I know that it's a lot easier to lend someone money than it is to get it back.
    I know that once the money has left my hands and entered someone else's, they have control over that money and not me.

    So if I threaten the guy who owes me money, he won't repay me.
    I need him to remain sympathetic to me as long as I want my money back.
     
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    Stocks slumping does not mean the Chinese stock market crashed. Sorry, it just doesn't.

     
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    And by nitpicking my post, somehow China isn't having a bad time due to tariffs, is that your point?

    China is somehow winning, because one person only described it as a slump while another two described it as a crash?

    You still understand the fundamental point, I take it?
    Hyperbole or no, you get the broad point, I assume.



    How about instead of trying to bullshit your way out of it, you recognise that you didn't know what you are talking about and accept the correction?
    How about in the light of new evidence that you weren't aware of, you update your reality and world view?


    Or... you can take the blue pill.
    Trump is an idiot. China > America economically. Go back to your happy delusion.
     
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    Trump got his alleged sexual offender confirmed... not sure I would brag about that as a win

    all the rule changes Republican make, dems will be able to use when they retake power
     
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    Given the flimsiness of the 'accusations', we could all be alleged rapists in Ford's, Ramirez's and Swetnick's world. And THAT will herald the end of the US as a civil society. Trump didn't just win, America won.
     
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    What rule changes?

    That's the thing about lefties. Specifics elude them like dog poo underfoot. They just don't see it, and suddenly they're wondering why everything around them stinks.
     

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