The Nazis were not a left wing liberal progressive party

Except when conservatives insist it is.

Forget about national education standards, environmental laws, but make sure intravaginal ultrasounds are mandatory.
Protect the innocent in the womb, and instantly forget about them upon birth.

Course with the next war all that spending and small government nonsense goes out the window for a good cause.

Whinge about welfare bums and fraudsters reliant of entitlements and demand massive cuts to boost defense while conveniently ignoring the massive waste and corruption in DoD.

The core principles of conservative and liberals have been reduced to bumper sticker memes that simply do not reflect the realities of current governance, but resonate with the populace. Seems the American voter has been set up for regular and repeated disappointment.

 

Legislating morality is absolutely necessary for any system of law and a bulwark of cultural standards. It's ridiculous to claim otherwise. It's simplistic nonsense like this that makes 'libertarians' and faux 'leftists' alike into cartoon fantasies.

 

^Rationalization at its finest. Even when someone openly brands themselves with leftist terms, some people still want to label them right wing simply because they do not want to be associated with what they did. I understand your feelings. But feelings do not trump facts. Sorry.

Now if you want to play the card that Hitler was right wing compared to Stalin, I suppose that's an argument you can make. But you're using a rather relative definition of the term. For instance, Spud Webb was taller than Muggsy Bogues. But by NBA standards, they're both still extremely short.

You can't call the Nazis right wing by American standards. Europe doesn't even have a right wing by American standards. It never really has. It only has left and further left.

 

All experts agree.....

obama's jack booted thug tactics have many

striking similarities with the Nazis.

Look at the IRS scandal, obama used it as a weapon against his political foes.

Poof, well i be dammed, where did all the emails go?

And now I hear obama wants to throw a reporter in Jail.

Why would anyone choose to support a Nazi?

 

Nonsense.. Why would you minimize the Gestapo?

 

How did you like that "All experts agree" touch?

obama and the left are so fun to make fun of with their own tactics.

What's not funny is they are a real threat to our Freedom.

 

Then in America there are no conservatives because no one is in favor of the status quo. The argument here is about the shape of the change we want. And all laws have a morale basis. It wasn't the American right that created a 5 million word tax code much of which not even two IRS tax auditors can agree on an interpretation. And 90% of it is about attempting to micromanage behavior in one way or the other.

 

I haven't changed the definition once. Maybe you should stop seeing what you want other people's posts to say? You seem to have a habit of doing that.

 

So the Liberal Party of Australia is a left wing party?

And why the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you Americans keep saying, "You can't call the Nazis right wing by American standards." Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about American standards in this debate? That's not the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing debate.

 

It's not just American standards, the nazis were far right wing as far as social order goes, but economically speaking they definitely were not right wing.

 

I dont agree with the social order thing at all. The fundamental social construct was that the prehistoric German culture had been defiled by outside influences. How many left wing (*)(*)(*)(*)heads celebrated indigenous peoples day this week? It seems that pure cultures and people being polluted by outside influences runs through the modern left.

 

right wingers show their ignorance when they call Adolf a leftist

 

So that means Obama is also a conservative.

 

How so?

 

He's slightly right of centre on the world stage. American politics are wildly skewed rightward. Few 20th century Presidents pre-Reagan could be said to be to his right.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2011/08/05/Obama-The-Covert-Conservative-Liberals-Have-to-Love

http://www.economist.com/economist-asks/barack-obama-centrist

 

Who pays for Obamas $30,000 a plate fundraiser? Obama is the most fascist president we have ever had.

 

They like Stalin persecuted anyone that would not toe the party line. That isn't in current terms right wing or left wing it is simply the totalitarian impulse at work and there is as much if not more of that on the left than there is on the right. You see it everytime some conservative speaker is driven off of a college campus by screaming leftist twits.

 

Your not seriously suggesting that the National belief in the supremacy of the Aryan race is "left wing", are you?

 

And I'd argue that European politics are heavily skewed leftward largely because most of the people with nerve and guts were run off or killed off during six centuries of nearly constant warfare.

 

Indeed. Someone once wrote a piece on how even their officially sanctioned art was almost the same, re murals, statues, paintings etc.

Another travesty and hypocritical fact of life. They also censor news as a matter of policy when in control of editorial staffs on newspapers, radio and TV networks. They even brag about that.

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Not necessarily. Europeans are heavily skewed toward nationalism, unlike the U.S.

 

And your not suggesting that such a belief largely based in nihilist philosophy is right wing are you?

 

Where did I say it was right wing? As far as I know the "master race" theory is not a widely held belief in either Liberal or Conservative circles. But some half-wit in this thread appears to be suggesting that recognizing the negative effects European colonization had on indigenous people is somehow comparable to being a Nazi. And that's just stupid.

 

I would tend to agree but that whiteman's burden claptrap combined with Nihlist philisophy provided a more than adequate starting point for some one that wanted to remake European society after his own image and came within an ace of succeeding.

 

In my observation cultural superiority is inherent to leftwing ideology. European culture is superior to American culture. The north east culture is superior to southern culture.

Tge whole notion of the pure Ayran race reeks of leftism. This prehistoric idealized society tbst was polluted is very common amongst the left. We just had a bunch of leftwing idiots trying to call Columbus Day as Indigenous Day. In other words an idealized prehistoric culture was polluted by outside influences. Seems exactly like what tge Nazis believed.

 

The Nazis viewed themselves as the indigenous people of Germany. How is their thinking that outside influences had negative effects any different than you recognizing "the negative effects European colonization had on indigenous people".

As for half-wit ha. Im the big dog here little pup. You tangle with me you are leaving bloodied and bruised.