The Nice attack. A question.

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Supposing the mad-dog perpetrator had been on a French security forces' terrorist watch list, and he'd been observed planning this attack. What should the security forces have done about it? I think they should shoot him dead on the spot.
     
  2. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would like to see execution without trial in the UK aswell or just France?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you think (in this particular case) that the perp should undergo due process then spend a few years in prison, with access to snooker tables, priority health care, 3 square meals a day, all paid for by those whom, if given the opportunity, he would have killed in the most horrendous fashion? Your knee-jerk liberalism is precisely the reason they've embarked on this kind of terrorism and intend to continue it; they don't fear the consequences? Well done you!
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They need to ban box trucks in the UK.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why wouldn’t they deal with such a suspect in the usual manner? I expect they’d attempt to arrest him before he was about to carry out an attack and while they’d obviously have lethal force on hand for a potentially deadly and unpredictable suspect, they’d only actually use it if it was deemed necessary to protect the safety of officers or the general public.
     
  6. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And then what? A prison term with all the benefits I listed above, and the probability that when he's released he'll go ahead with his erstwhile intention? Why would you care about the human rights of a psychopath?
     
  7. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No I believe in the rule of law. Your rhetoric is pointless. Do you believe in execution without trial or not?

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    No, all motorised vehicles except motorbikes.:smile:
     
  8. EggKiller

    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    Well, one must be careful in allowing any government to declare an individual or group to be labeled a psychopath while granting the authority to execute at their whim. Insert Godwin's law here.
    I understand the frustration but I don't think the problem stems from government not having enough authority. The problem seems to be a lack of will.
     
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    I personally am not against taking away the rights of a psychopaths, but before taking someone's rights away I want to make fully sure that the person is a psychopath, which means we give everyone due process.. and then, when it can be concluded that the person is guilty and they are a danger, we can separate that person from society
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To prevent something like Nice, or Charlie Hebdo, or the Paris attack, plus other atrocities worldwide? Yes, without a doubt. You don't seem to understand that they've declared war on us.
     
  11. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who are they?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If security services are carrying out surveillance and hear someone arranging another 'Nice' 'Glasgow' or 'Charlie Hebdo' I suspect we can all assume that individual is a psychopath??
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FFS who are we talking about here - jihadists?? :wall:
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A trial would be traditional. You could make a strong argument supporting the death penalty for people convicted of terrorism offences but you OP was promoting summary execution of suspects on the say-so of individual police officers.

    You just said those things. I hope you’re not sitting near any windows or the police snipers could have you in their sights already.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And regulate any truck over a 1000lb especially white trucks.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    There really needs to be a ban on trucks, you know just anybody can go rent a truck. And not to mention people just leave them out in the streets for anybody to steal. You know assault vehicles.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if, when this mad dog is released, or escapes, or is 'sprung', and he does the deed, would any of you smart-arses not feel the slightest sense of responsibility for it, by way of guilt through to complicity? Especially if one of your relatives ended up like those poor souls in the vid clip. Instead of posting idiotic remarks about 'vans' why don't you have the integrity to reply to the OP?

    'A trial would be traditional' - :wall: ;wall: Jesus wept, how they must laugh at that kind of stupid liberal comment!
     
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    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes... Everything must be seen through the idiocy of the American gun fetish.
     
  19. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And how about how much you would squeal if one of your relatives was shot by mistake!
    But of course from your posts we know YOU would never be near the sharp end, just calling for someone else to murder for you.
     
  20. AmericanNationalist

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    If you haven't noticed, we(the West) are at WAR with these barbarians. If you don't want to pull the trigger, then arbitrarily arrest them and charge them with association with terror groups. This idea that we have to WAIT for them to kill us before taking action is one of the biggest reasons for our lack of security, and the reason for Trump's or Boris Johnson's.
     
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    It seems psychopathology runs rampant in certain groups of people--specifically believers in Sharia, and jihadists.
     
  22. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really please show where anyone on this forum has ever suggested we have to wait for them to kill us before taking action. Do you understand english?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No its satire of how imbecilic the left is in our country. Lets see if the previous gun grab after the orlando shooting was bs by asking you about this attack.
    Could this attack have been prevented by stricter regulation of box trucks?
     
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    They...being who? We need a clear target or we risk making some serious mistakes.
     
  25. AmericanNationalist

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    I think given the results of this entire "war on terror", it's plainly obvious our governments(and most civilians for that matter) would rather be reactive than pro active to the challenges we're facing from our enemies. I say it's time to go on the offensive for ONCE :D.

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    ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nursa, the Taliban. All of them. Any previous affiliation with terrorists marks them as wanted men. Hamas, etc. It's time to put each group under one single umbrella.
     

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