The Not so Subtle Moral Decay of the US Military

You are quite the psychiatrist! As a layman/-woman I could have told you from the start... eliminate the f*** wars!
BUT... if the Americans are discarding thoughts of "Empire" and slacken off on their power grip, then someone else will take their place. If that will be Israel, so help us God!
If it will be the Chinese, I give up... their language is impossible!
Good old Russia under Putin might not be too bad.
My first choice, of course, would be Canadal!!

 

I am tempted to think you are a bit of a clown, would I be right?

 

No, I posted the link to demonstrate that much of what is presented via television, movies, etc. have to be questioned; the website is a collection of picture that are not real, they are sort of CGI manufactured pictures, even though they look to be real people. This calls into question how many of the pictures used by law enforcement and DoD are real or fake.

 

So what? It is NOT the place of the United States of America to be imperial, such fanciful foolishness has caused all of the former empires to end in a very bad manner.

 

How so? The British Empire, too? What bad manner are you thinking of?

The Americans took over from the British after WWII and have steadily increased their power since through the atom bomb and endless wars.
What fanciful foolishness are you talking about? Elaborate, please!
Are we actually both on the same planet?

 

Good point and good question. Do you think they would alter even scenes and people taken by public cameras, for instance in parking garages and on street corners?
DoD probably lies a lot and shows fake photos. I'm thinking of Osama bin Laden's capture and sea burial, as an example. 9/11 is another example of fooling the public.

 

Did you take some combat injury to the head while you were there? How the F do you think you got there? You think being drafted automatically means it was an invasion? Don't forget to make an appointment with the VA, you need it.

 

Let me help you out a bit. When you landed in Nam, did you fight the South Vietnamese? If not, no invasion.

 

Nope they faught against the traitorous invaders, from the North.

 

Very well said, especially the comments about previous eras. I have read that the Mexican-American war was so bad some soldiers vowed never to fight again. We killed them indiscriminately. Same with the war in the Phillipines. We like to think our military code of justice is a guarantee, it is not. But I do think we do aspire to be fair and just, it is hard to have total control over raging scared shitless soldiers.

 

Isn't the SPLC a domestic terror organization these days?

 

Once the shooting starts the saftey of Americans should be our primary, almost only concern. As long as there is war, there will be both atrocities and collateral damage. We should do our best to minimize them of course but i am vastly more concerned about the saftey of Americans if that diminishes the saftey of civilians so be it, our people are more important.

The guilt for what they do doesn't fall on them, it falls on us, the people who sent them there.

It's clear though that the military is not the proper tool for long term occupation and nation rebuilding.

 

I wasn't drafted, I did ROTC. I went with an open mind.

For the sake of argument, let's say you are right--we didn't really invade there. I will play your game, for the sake of discussion.

Under that scenario, we were really very poor guests after our "invitation" by the puppet government in Saigon. As "guests" there we defoliated their country and poisoned its inhabitants, AND OUR OWN TROOPS, in the process. We poisoned and destroyed their country.

Rude guests, we were.

Round-eye invaders, barbarians, we were.

 

I was lucky to be in the medical end of it. Luckily I didn't have to kill anybody.

Those who choose semantics inevitably fail to make a persuasive point. That is, semantic points win nothing, and only reveal an absence of real argument.

 

The Siagon government was not a puppet of the US. That was a big part of the problem.
We had no control over them.
If they had even listened to us they would have gotten rid of the Nues and not persecuted the Buddhists Diem had he listened to us would have had a united south Vietnam.
If their military would have listened to our advisors, they would have met with more success, such as the battle for Ap Bac.

No way in hell could the south Vietnamese have ever been considered an American puppet.

 

Jazz, not saying that this is done, just saying that it is a possibility.

 

One word, Y-E-S!

 

The same big brains who assured us that the Soviet Union was never going away?

The same libs who would have gladly given south korea to the communists also?

 

As Eisenhower warned, our country has become controlled by the military industrial complex. Our wars are not prosecuted on any self defense concerns, but for the profits they generate. Half of our national budget is consumed to make profits for corporations like Halliburton, McDonald Douglas, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, and others.

In addition to defense contractors, the world banking cartel makes imminse profits from war as most all war is financed.
War for any purpose other than self defense is immoral, thus all things which come from these immoral wars demoralizes the victims as well as their persecutors.

We deceive ourselves and imagine we are civilized and moral people doing what is ethical, but nothing could be farther from the truth. Tens of millions of innocent people have been slaughtered by our military for fictitious reasons over the past 50 years, and ultimately, it is the American people who must assume responsibility for that.

 

This post is complete and utter idiocy.

Defense spending is barely a quarter of the U.S. federal budget.

McDonald Douglas and General Dynamics don't even exist any more as defense contractors.

And the profit margins on defense contracts are pretty small on the average.

 

Of course! You are a careful little mouse, eh?

 

As you can plainly see, the military consumes by far the largest part of discretionary spending. It is a gigantic waste of money predicated on the fear manufactured by the military industrial complex to deceive the American people. Our military is out of control, it needs to be reduced to only what is actually needed to defend the country and stop running around the world starting wars for profit.

 

Nope.. They defend civil rights.

 

Who assured you the Soviet Union would never go away?