The one thing the Kavanaugh nomination has shown

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    They'll find flaws in any candidate Trump picks. Appearances are often deceiving. You got any idea how man people a have been exonerate of crime after eye witness misidentified them as the culprit only to be released later when DNA evidence revealed the truth?
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    You have four witnesses all of whom claimed under oath that they weren't there. Now what? You have literally nothing except for two half wits claimed they were the guys in the Room with Dr. Ford...
     
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    With an FBI investigation, there can be discussions with people who will refute comments made by Kavanaugh - under oath - about the Devil's Triangle and other nonsense he spouted. If he falls, I don't think it will be the Ford issue...I think he will be proven to have lied.
     
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    Trump already picked someone, he was confirmed, so you claims fail

    democrats have no say in this cause republicans changed the rules to 50 votes
     
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    Then Ford must provide exact details pertaining to the date the incident and occurred, and where it occurred. Without such exact details, no investigation can be had.
     
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    Apparently, you didn't even bother to read my post.
     
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    The post was indeed read. It is yet one more in a long, unending line of mindless calls for FBI investigations of an incident with no noted time, no noted location, and with witnesses who provided sworn testimony saying that it never happened.
     
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    Perhaps, when reading, you glossed over the fact that I stated I didn't think it would be the Ford incident that takes him down, but rather discussions with others who will show he lied under oath.
     
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    According to those who believe Ford, we already have that, as his statement that he did nothing of the sort is a lie.
    Simple testimony proves nothing.
     
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    Am I going crazy? I'm not talking about Ford and have said it twice now!
     
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    You're talking about lying under oath.
    If simple testimony is all it takes to prove this, you already have it and there need be no investigation.
     
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    My wife was seven when some bastard molested her, she remembers when she remembers where she can tell you chapter and verse and that was sixty years go. One other thing I didn't me too earlier, you have any idea how many people have been positively identified by eye witnesses who later exonerated by DNA evidence?
     
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    It does no such thing.
     
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    What utter nonsense. There was corroborating evidence out there, but the Judicial Committee leaders refused to hear it. They refused to even subpoena Kavanaugh's close friend and accomplice Judd. They also refused to allow the FBI to finish an investigation to clarify the facts. I don't agree with your post which asserts that it was the Democrats who failed to seek the truth. Even now, they are continuing to request that FBI investigation to get at the truth, not the Republicans.
     
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    Explain what the corroborating evidence is.
     
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    How can I or anyone do that when it was never allowed to surface by the Republican Senate leadership?
     
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    Dude can you get something right just this once. They have judge's sworn statement. He is subject to perjury if he lied. There is no corroborating evidence.Things she told her friends and husband are not corroboration they are hearsay.
     
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    Then if it is not actually known by anyone what the evidence is, or what it actually amounts to, do not be making claims that it actually exists.
     
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    The one thing that has been shown, as if it was needed, is that Lefty has no shame.
     
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    What judge are you talking about? Also, Ford's testimony to the Judicial Committee was sworn testimony as well, and libel to perjury. Why would Ford risk such a thing? What would she gain be doing so if it weren't true?
     
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    I've been endorsing the idea of an FBI investigation to determine whether that evidence actually exists, what it is, how important it might be, and whether it is sufficient to support rejecting Kavanaugh as justice on the Supreme Court. How can we know for sure if we don't investigate. It seems to me you who support Kavanaugh would want that too--to totally clear his name.
     
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    For probably the forty-fifth time since this crap began, because some believes something to be true does not of necessity mean that it is true. Have you any idea how many people convicted on the basis of eye witness testimony, have later been freed after DNA evidence revealed their innocence. Further I guarantee you that eighty percent plus of people who believe the moon landing was a hoax would pass a polygraph on that subject ditto 9/11Truthers and John Birchers. People are firmly convinced of many things that are just flat out wrong. And some of which are completely idiotic. Dr. Ford will not be the first person to identify the wrong man and she won't be the last.
     
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    Exactly what can the FBI investigate when Ford cannot give a date or location for them to investigate? The year and city is not good enough for them to find anything. She must be specific, or nothing can be done. If she cannot provide an exact date or location, then there is no evidence to be had.
     
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    That's what the FBI investigation was supposed to resolve. Without it, all is confusion, and no one knows who to believe.
     
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    There's more to it than that. There's even more witnesses than only Ford. Conservatives are acting like if we can't completely answer one specific question then all other questions are useless. That's nuts.
     

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