The Refugee Rape Gangs of Sweden

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  1. Latherty

    Latherty Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I suspect Sweden is acting in a proactive way to stem the problem, but managing the media is a part of that strategy.

    They drastically cut immigration in 2016 and basically shut the gate on refugees. Unlike Trump, they did this with comparatively very little fuss because they didn't make a big public song and dance that characterized Muslim immigrants as criminals. SO they weren't accused of acting in a racist fashion.

    I imagine they are also taking integration matters in a similarly subdued yet effective manner, but they have a quite problem that is difficult to manage.

    Their ways may seem strange to us. But the culture is super-rationale, deliberate and patient and will in the end prevail.
     
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    how is it a deflection? Yes what he said was idiotic and sexist. No defense here.

    So where is your condemnation of Hillary and Bill for the rape and threatening of that rape victim?

    Now this is where the defection will kick in. From you.
     
  3. guavaball

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    That's a lot of hope with very little fact behind it.

    And their approach you so admire got them to where they are today so I would hardly call it rational let alone "super" rational.
     
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    Donald Trump swoops in like superman ! Just in time. America is lucky .
     
  5. Gatewood

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    Damned lucky. I was a Hillary supporter in 2008 and I think that both this nation and the Dem Party would be better off today had she won in 2008 rather than Obama. But that was then and the Hillary of 2016 had turned bad, rotten, and corrupt to the bone. Plus I genuinely believe that there is something mentally wrong with her, that she never really recovered from her old head injury. Had she won this past November then that would probably have signaled the beginning of the end for the United States. Sweden WOULD have become our future.
     
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    They're not "liberals". They're regressive leftists.
     
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    Says a Regressive Trump cult member who hates true Progressives.
     
  9. TomFitz

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    I have never, ever failed to document a claim when called upon to do so.

    In this case, I suggest that you read your own links. This story only appears in far right wing American blogs. They parrot claims by skinhead groups in Sweden who tried to demand statistics be structured they way they wanted to present them.

    At no time did Sweden refuse to release crime statistics.
     
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    Talk about Fake News. They can't make the story against immigrants in America, so now they go all the way to Sweden to try and fluff up stories about rape by immigrants.
     
  11. guavaball

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    You just did. Don't claim they made it up then run away when you are asked to prove it.

    So you can't disprove them and offer no links to counter them. And you claim to always document your claims. Right.

    Then prove the story wrong or admit your mistake.
     
  12. Your Best Friend

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    This is encouraging to know and I think all of Europe has "pumped the brakes" when it comes to filling their nations up with Muslim immigrants who, so far, have not assimilated very well at all, I would say in a real under statement.

    I'm sure no one wants another "Ben Affleck" moment where
    some empty headed boob will find Islamophobia in the the coffee grounds in his morning cup if he looks a little bit.
    Though I back Donald Trump I wish he had ten cents worth of p.r. savvy and would shut his mouth more, though who can say where his baseline is as far
    as intemperate public statements? Maybe he pushes back most of what he thinks already? Who knows?

    Well they sure as hell have dropped the ball so far so I hope you are right. It's Germany, France and Sweden that are reaping what they have sowed so good for them if they see
    the error of their ways.
     
  13. Zorro

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    The Culture War Over Sweden.

    “In truth it is thanks to the cult of relativism and the surge in identity politics and the political and intellectual elites turning their backs on the fundamental founding values of the modern West – liberty, democracy and tolerance – that our societies have become confused and tetchy and even conflictual. . . . This Orwellian memory-holing of facts, this airbrushing of inconvenient reality, is possibly the most dangerous trend in the Culture Wars today. It reveals the extent to which Europe’s welcoming of millions of Middle Eastern migrants, done above the heads of the demos, was largely an act of elite virtue-signalling; an ill-considered, little-discussed initiative designed more to boost the moral standing of Angela Merkel and other EU and Western European leaders than to alleviate the suffering of Syrians and Afghanis or to address economic and political needs in Western nations themselves. . . . The most important thing for the Western political and media class is the rush of virtue that ‘saving’ Syrians and others provides them with, and reality cannot be allowed to dilute that rush.”

    http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-culture-war-over-sweden/19497#.WLGZuhBY9Bz

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    The Culture War Over Sweden.

    “In truth it is thanks to the cult of relativism and the surge in identity politics and the political and intellectual elites turning their backs on the fundamental founding values of the modern West – liberty, democracy and tolerance – that our societies have become confused and tetchy and even conflictual. . . . This Orwellian memory-holing of facts, this airbrushing of inconvenient reality, is possibly the most dangerous trend in the Culture Wars today. It reveals the extent to which Europe’s welcoming of millions of Middle Eastern migrants, done above the heads of the demos, was largely an act of elite virtue-signalling; an ill-considered, little-discussed initiative designed more to boost the moral standing of Angela Merkel and other EU and Western European leaders than to alleviate the suffering of Syrians and Afghanis or to address economic and political needs in Western nations themselves. . . . The most important thing for the Western political and media class is the rush of virtue that ‘saving’ Syrians and others provides them with, and reality cannot be allowed to dilute that rush.”

    http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-culture-war-over-sweden/19497#.WLGZuhBY9Bz
     
  14. Publius_Bob

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    Rape by Muslim men in Sweden is on the rise.

    Immigration of Muslim men to European nations is on the rise and the effects are seen daily on the world stage.

    France, Germany, England, and others are re-evaluating their immigration positions whilst scratching their heads asking themselves what went wrong?

    This should be a call to action for political leaders and citizens of this country.
     
  15. Stuart Wolfe

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    So, let me see if I got this right: You're saying that deflection away from the OP is wrong, and yet your very first post in this thread (about the rising rape crisis in Sweden) is this:

    I know, I know: You're not going to answer me and frankly it's not as if you CAN defend your own posts, especially when you complain about deflection while you do exactly what you're whining about. But hey, it's amusing enough to use your own words against you - as always. :roflol:
     
  16. KathyS

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    Thank you for your comment ^^^^

    I have been lurking, trying to get a feel for this board and the members. Overall, I believe it's pretty much 50/50 conservatives/liberals. I think this is a great ratio,btw.
    Anyway, you make a great point regarding protecting wives and children. That is something the liberals seem to ignore these days, until it happens to them.
    A good friend emigrated legally from Germany and tells a similar story about her home country, and Europe. I believe what she says.
     
  17. KathyS

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    I know, right?? Just like who would support Bill Clinton?
     
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    There is no comparison between Trump who made locker room comments and Bill Clinton who stuck his cigar up Monica's (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and raped several women. You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
  19. Zorro

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    It's happening. England too.

    'Easy Meat.' Britain's Muslim Rape Gang Cover-Up

    http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2016/august/easy-meat-britains-muslim-rape-gang-cover-up

    "There's a particular problem involving Pakistani heritage men who target young, vulnerable, white English girls." He also said these Pakistani heritage men view white English girls as "easy meat."

    A British Muslim male is 170 times more likely to be a part of sex grooming gang than a non-Muslim. And there are no recorded instances of non-Muslims doing this to Muslim girls as part of a criminal enterprise. In one local jurisdiction, it was estimated that six out of seven Muslim males either knew about, or were part of, a grooming gang.

    Igler says, "What you do not have is any example of non-Muslim men targeting Muslim girls for this organized form of abuse.

    The grooming gangs have been traced back as far as the late 1980s. At-risk white English girls, often from broken homes and some as young as nine years old, were wooed or "groomed" by teenage Muslim boys called 'Romeos' and even by groups of Muslim men who hung around school gates. The girl would be made to feel important; given gifts and drugs. She was being groomed to be a drug addicted prostitute. Then came the gang rapes. They were threatened with death if they tried to flee.

    Igler says, "The thing you have to understand about this rape of children is it's not just sexual abuse. It is unspeakable levels of violence, victims being raped with knives, victims being raped with bottles, victims having their tongues nailed to tables. These are sometimes girls who are picked up from a children's home on a Friday, are being raped during the course of a weekend by hundreds of men and returned with bleeding groins back to the children's' home on a Monday morning and they don't do anything about it at all."

    Christine's god-daughter was preyed on by a grooming gang. She now tries to help grooming victims through the group Women Against Grooming. She says of one victim who came looking for help, "They pulled up alongside her with cars. They tried to get her in the car. They were talking to her, saying, "Come on, come on, we'll take you here or we'll take you there."

    Authorities often make it sound like it was the girl's fault, or her parents' fault, "because you don't have control of your child."

    Igler says, "If you are a young English girl, particularly between the ages of nine and 14, and you find yourself subject to the perversions of Muslim men, you effectively exist in a country where the forces of law and order don't exist at all."

    Stephen Lennon, former leader of the English Defence League, was just a young boy in the town of Luton when he learned a family member had been victimized by a grooming gang. He told us, "I first knew because my cousin was raped and she was found naked and running from the Muslim community, age 13. She was taken by the prostitutes on the street. The police wouldn't help. All the police would say is she's a drug addict. She was a drug addict. She became hooked on drugs after they were grooming and raping her. "

    Some say grooming gangs originate from a particular region of Pakistan. But others point out that the Quran encourages Muslims to take enemy women as sex slaves, and that Muhammed had sex with a 9-year-old wife.

    ISIS has publicly defended sexual slavery, saying, "enslaving the families of the infidels and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of the Sharia, or Islamic law."

    The reason these crimes were covered up and continue to this day is political correctness. No one wanted to be called a racist.

    The definitive book on this scandal is "Easy Meat" by Peter McLoughlin, who declined an on-camera interview for safety reasons. He told us, "Journalists would not speak about it, because the perpetrators were mostly dark-skinned and Muslim. Childcare professionals used Political Correctness as an 'omerta,' a code of silence concerning what the public was allowed to know."

    "These girls are the victims of the multicultural revolution," says Igler, "and it is certainly an indication of the fact that this accusation of racism is potentially the most powerful weapon known to man." "This is also an example of what can happen in a country of 60 million where the press just refuses to report; where the cries of all these agencies fail; fail to merely discuss what is going on."

    The cover up was eventually exposed, yet the grooming gangs continue to operate. One victim told a British newspaper, "Nothing has changed, not in the slightest. It's still the same scale as before."

    Igler said of the grooming gangs, "They get sexual kicks out of ruining the most precious possession that people have, their daughters."

    Stephen Lennon warned that there will be repercussions.

    He told us, "There's no blood on my hands, but there will be a lot of blood spilled in this country, and it will be on the hands of our leaders. And there will come a time when they will realize what they have done, and the country's people will realize what they've done, as well. They've sold us out. They've destroyed our nation. They've destroyed our culture."
     
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    Claim: "Refugees are behind the increase in crime, but the authorities are covering it up."

    Facts: According to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention's Swedish Crime Survey, some 13 per cent of the population were the victim of an offence against them personally in 2015. This is an increase on preceding years, although it is roughly the same level as in 2005.

    The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention has conducted two studies into the representation of people from foreign backgrounds among crime suspects, the most recent in 2005. The studies show that the majority of those suspected of crimes were born in Sweden to two Swedish-born parents. The studies also show that the vast majority of people from foreign backgrounds are not suspected of any crimes.

    People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background. According to the most recent study, people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes than people born in Sweden to Swedish-born parents. In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. This means factors such as parents' incomes, and the social circumstances in the area in which an individual grew up.

    Swedish government agencies have nothing to gain from covering up statistics and facts; they seek an open and fact-based dialogue. Sweden is an open society governed by a principle of public access to official documents. This means that members of the public, e.g. private individuals and media representatives, have the right to insight into and access to information about the activities of central and local government.
     
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    Mate, I just got back from Sweden, and there wasnt a rapist in sight...no refugees...didnt see a single one.
    I got the feeling everyone was in love..people walking around arm in arm, young girls out at nite, partying,
    having a good time, completely unaccompanied, unafraid of being alone. Truly a beautiful country........
    What Ill be serious about is this...
    Once again, another thread has started on the insidious nature of islam.
    Once again, islam is at the forefront of the news.
    Everyone is either moaning about islam, or defending islam.
    If you defend islam, youre dumb as a box of rocks...
    Its coming folks, its coming...the rest of the world versus islam...
    A fight to the finish and the ending wont be pretty....itll be pretty ugly, because
    you have to fight fire with fire......
    Canadastan will be the beginning, if any of them have any balls......
     
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    Oh well then, who could possibly dispute a source like that? [​IMG]
     
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    To prevent crime is to know the extent and nature of crime beforehand.
     
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    Also the majority of the Swedish government are female. One of them was interviewed on the BBC's Sunday Politics yesterday and was challenged on the true situation, especially the fact that when the recent riot took place in a suburb of Stockholm, President Trump's perceived faux pas of 'look what happened in Sweden yesterday' was fully justified. Her responses were embarrassing to watch.

    See "Was Trump closer to the truth than the Swedish government likes to admit?"

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/772104/SWEDEN-RIOTS-Donald-Trump-Government-rinkeby-TRUTH-crime
     

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