The Religious Exemption is LOL

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    1. Studies from every where but here where there are none show natural immunity is not more effective and longer lasting than the vaccines and more effective against variants as well.

    .2. current data strongly suggest, if not declares outright, that people who have already had covid and recovered are at heightened risk for a serious adverse reaction to the vaccine.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Dude I'm retired. And a hell of a lot of front line medical people, techs nurses and doctors have walked off very high paying jobs rather than get the vaccine...
     
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    Corporate welfare?
     
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    People are so confused what HIPPA allows and does not allow. If asking for private medical information was against HIPPA then schools could not require vaccine records, yet virtually every school in the nation from pre-K to college require such things.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, so the federal govt is basically offering religious exemption carte blanche to anyone for any reason they (as other posters put it) 'make up' without any oversight, just as opponents fear anti-vax employers will do...?

    Why do you think the govt would allow its mandate to be so easily and obviously 'defanged' by such a huge loophole that literally anyone can use?
     
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    I do not think they have any choice, how can you verify a religious view? I cannot see the courts siding with the Govt telling someone 'no, your religious views really do not say that".

    But the mandate, even with the exemption has driven a good number of her co-workers to get the vaccine so while it cannot force them all to, it is having its intended effect.

    I have also not been able to find anywhere what happens if a Fed Employee just says "NO". It is not easy to fire a Fed Employee
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good totalitarian. *Pats head*
     
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    I take it you don't do taxs, have a divers/fishing/hunting license, birth certificate, bank account, social security account or REGISTERED TO VOTE,, holy hell the list goes on forever...

    Then again, are you a ILLEGAL from south of the border? That statement has to be the most unbelievable thing I have ever heard/read in all my time!

    GOOD God and it's only Wednesday :shock:
     
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  9. garyd

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    Those are mandated by state or sometimes local school Boards and not all vaccines are mandated no vaccine had previously been mandated by the feds.
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    Odd to see the term "liars" used when defending politicians doing our thinking for us.

    If it pleases the crown, I would like to feed my children and make my own medical decisions! Perhaps a few cold nights under the overpass with the sounds of their children crying in hunger will show them how much Democrats really care about them!
     
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    By the way if you exempt the post office as Biden did you bring up equal protection issues.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strange I didn’t see this sentiment in the Texas thread? Strange indeed
     
  13. MJ Davies

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    True. It also doesn't help for small businesses with less than 15 employees.

    https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/questions-and-answers-religious-discrimination-workplace

    That probably isn't significant relative to numbers as opposed to employers with countless employees all gathered around. I guess whatever adjudication happens will set a new precedent.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    My position on opposing government interference is consistent. There is a term for those opposing government interference in bodily autonomy for abortion, but supports it for pharm products.
     
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    I support women making their medical decisions on abortion and trumpers making their medical decision to remain unvaccinated and place themselves at heightened risk of death.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    You have contradicted yourself. You wanted to remove religious exemptions and now support choice, Which is it?

    "Heightened risk" is a generic term used to mislead the gullible. What is the actual risk of death for healthy people?
     
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    There are other sects within Christianity that refuse medical treatment of all kinds. Christian Scientists, for example.
     
  18. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If they don’t want to get vaccinated they can find a job that aligns with their beliefs. Choice.
     
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    Incorrect.

    • Public interest and benefit activities—The Privacy Rule permits use and disclosure of protected health information, without an individual’s authorization or permission, for 12 national priority purposes
    1. When required by law
    2. Public health activities
    3. Victims of abuse or neglect or domestic violence
    4. Health oversight activities
    5. Judicial and administrative proceedings
    6. Law enforcement
    7. Functions (such as identification) concerning deceased persons
    8. Cadaveric organ, eye, or tissue donation
    9. Research, under certain conditions
    10. To prevent or lessen a serious threat to health or safety
    11. Essential government functions
    12. Workers compensation
    Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) | CDC
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Such conflict of interest -unfortunately, is not.
     
  21. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    I see. So pro choice means we are free to think for ourselves living under an overpass hearing the cries of our cold, hungry children. That makes armed robbery pro choice.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are plenty of employers that agree with your ilk.
     
  23. ChiCowboy

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    Perhaps, perhaps not. I don't know of any conflict of interest. My post referenced the childish meme.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    You have contradicted yourself and are now trying to change the subject. (The dance of the hypocrite) People can agree, disagree, believe anything they want. The issue here is government overreach and abuse of power.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have not showed how I contradicted myself. Not have I tried to change the subject.

    Maybe it is a reading comprehension deficiency on your end?
     

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