The 'settled science' actually isn't, dissent is being suppressed.

Climatologists show that the rate of warming can not be explained by ice age recovery.

Yes, the challenge is serious. However, the progress we make will slow the temperature increase, giving more time to adapt.

You concern about China and India is real, of course. China is achieving faster growth in clean energy than in coal, and they have a goal of reaching carbon neutrality. Can they do that? We'll see, but they are making moves. They are working on cutting oil consumption as well as improving electricity generation.

One somewhat good sign is that since 2006 greenhouse gas emissions per capita in the world has not grown!

Today, the USA is a major offender in greenhouse gas per capita. So, we're in a position to do more than other countries. Also, India is still way at the bottom, though one must assume their emergence will require major amounts of energy.

https://www.wri.org/insights/charts-explain-per-capita-greenhouse-gas-emissions

 

Actually 100% of the warming can be explained by Ice age recovery, without even getting to that part caused by our changes to the surface of the earth that increases warming.

Only if you continue to believe the climate models that have been shown to be seriously flawed, are in fact accurate.

All while they continue to increase the amount of CO2 they put into the atmosphere.

 

Nothing paraphrases real science more than "you can't question our findings".

 

LoL leftists think China is going green. Omg I've got to stop reading these fast takes I always laugh too hard.

 

Bulltwang! What will be the price of fish in Florida this year after the massive die off of the reefs? The weather patterns are shifting

https://www.climatechange.environme...ain is falling in,away soils and damage crops.

https://www.oecd.org/agriculture/ministerial/documents/Agriculture and Climate Change.pdf

 

Going for the green in the solar panel, battery and EV markets.

 

Exactly.

China is cranking out solar panels as fast as they can build new coal plants lol

Oh man these people.

 

I don’t post twang from politicians. I’m only interested in science. Let’s look at what scientists are finding by applying the scientific method.

Yes weather patterns are shifting. If you want to talk agriculture I’m in.

Let’s look at what scientists say about Australian wheat yields increasing with climate change. Typically scientists that have specialties in agronomy know more about agriculture than politicians.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212096321000292

Improving yields of Australian wheat with warming climate has a long history. This study was published in 1997 and looked at climate impacts on Australian wheat yields since the 1950’s.

https://www.nature.com/articles/387484a0#:~:text=Climate trends appear to be,temperatures being the dominant influence.

Australian has a lot of arid regions, no? Let’s see what is going on globally with arid regions and plant productivity!

https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6/wg2/IPCC_AR6_WGII_FullReport.pdf

Wow. So higher temps, higher CO2 levels, more grazing, and changes to precipitation patterns has INCREASED plant productivity in arid regions globally.

Here’s a glimpse of what scientists predict for more global scope of agriculture going forward. Scientists that understand agricultural producers always adapt. That we have been adapting since the dawn of agriculture and we won’t stop. Maybe your politicians think your ag producers are stupid. Maybe your producers aren’t progressive and don’t adapt. I don’t know. But the opinions of your politicians in your links conflict with science. Science isn’t twang. Politician’s opinions that conflict with science is twang.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-34411-5

Some folks confuse bad politicians with good science. Not me though. I’ll go with science, you can have your unsubstantiated opinions.

 

The reefs are doing just fine.

 

It's tough talking common sense to fear mongers.

 

Exactly. Want to know how fine the reefs will be? There are limestone quarries around Miami that were laid down during the last ice age. That was a time when most of Florida was underwater. That has happened every time our planet entered an interglacial, there is absolutely no reason to expect this one will be any different.

Especially as that warm time during an interglacial is actually the normal temperature of the planet. The time period we are living in now is very much below the normal, caused simply by a quirk of plate tectonics.

 

NOAA on Atlantic and Gulf reefs

 

They are wrong.
". . . The world can only hope that NOAA and all those alarmist websites will soon admit that improved science has revealed the error of their ways, and they will now come clean and tell the public that CO2 has not threatened reef builders and shell builders. In fact, they should report that more CO2 generates more bicarbonate ions which are the building blocks of shells and reefs."
Why Climate Scientists were Duped into Believing Rising CO2 will Harm Coral and Mollusks
Jim Steele
The world can only hope that NOAA and all those alarmist websites will soon admit that improved science has revealed the error of their ways . . .

 

So, you found an environmentalist who has a different opinion on coral.

Are you suggesting that there are no experts or studies on coral from NOAA?

Once again, you pick one guy and then claim they are to be believed over and above all those who have a different understanding.

This is NOT a valid scientific process.


Also, who the heck is "Jim Steele"??

 

Jim Steele

YouTube · Jim Steele
1.8K+ followers

Jim Steele is Director emeritus of San Francisco State University's Sierra Nevada Field Campus, authored Landscapes and Cycles: An Environmentalist's ...

 

Oooh! Nice to have some denial - you didn’t back your claim I note

 

It's not a denial, it's a fact.

You are aware that until relatively recently, most of the reefs that exist today were once dry land, right? And go back even farther, and there were massive reefs that were built on on what is dry land today.

What, do you think they have always been in those locations, static and unchanging?

That to me is the most ultimately unscientific mindset that could ever exist. That the planet should be absolutely static and never change.

First, welcome to Florida, about 26 kya. All of those coral reefs that we divers love to explore? They did not exist then, that was all dry land.



Now, welcome to the same area, about 115 kya.



At that time, there were some large ocean reefs deep inland, where they now quarry limestone. And our planet had gone through multiple of those cycles in the last 2.5 my.

So why exactly should anybody believe that that cycling has stopped? And that somehow we would still magically hold in place in a temperature range that is far below the normal temperature for our planet for well over 500 million years?

Or do you not believe in Charles Darwin?

 

1.8 thousand “followers”. Not exactly pied pipering is he?

 

What, you think good science is a popularity contest?

Maybe if he made some twerking tik tok videos he would have more followers.

 

Again, an entire thread.
The Great Barrier Reef is Doing Just Fine

 

Once again you'd rather attack people than discuss the data.