The study of Diversity .. The Robert Putnam Study

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Tell me, do you think we ought to bill the dead bodies for cleaning up the unsightly buzzard **** from the piles of corpses that would pile up outside the locked hospital doors in your Conservotopia?
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Like YOU"RE smarter than George Washington Carver, Richard Drew, etc, etc.
     
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    It would help a lot if people - especially students - were encouraged to think as individuals instead of members of some identity group.
     
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  4. Max Rockatansky

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    Soylent Green. It's a twofer! Clean the streets, feed the poor. A perfect authoritarian solution.

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    I guess it depends on whether or not you could manage to get all students under one umbrella. For example, if you have two groups telling group A to behave individualistically but only one group is telling Groups B and C to act individually, there are going to be people who remain collectivist.

    But then again I am not someone who believes that individualism, interpreted literally, is good in EVERY single case. Individualism is necessary in some situations but a collective can be immensely powerful and when organized correctly, tremendously effective.
     
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    True so let's learn from the native tribes once dominant in America. Must we repeat the mistakes they made?
     
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    Would you mind at all if they arrived in America with plenty of cash? Maybe sell some of their drugs when still in Mexico?
     
  8. Robert

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    For sake of argument, pretend you went to Germany or England or Australia or even China and you had no money.

    Who there do you want to take care of you?
     
  9. Max Rockatansky

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    What is the mistake they made? Being technologically inferior? Not being inoculated against a wide range of diseases? Not living in a constant state of fear and failing to murder everyone who got off the boat?

    You often claim to be a Christian. What's the Christian lesson here, Robert?
     
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    No one, but if they were throwing away money to all takers, I'd take it. What's your point, Christian?
     
  11. Robert

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    I at times allowed one of the passengers sitting up front to temporarily handle the controls. OF course I was intantly on it should they pull some stunt. But the sole time a passenger gave me nerves was at night. We were flying over the SF Bay area around the Half Moon Bay area I believe. He could not keep the nose level. He pushed the yoke enough forward that we were losing altitude. I tried to talk him into handling it correctly but failed. I took back control.

    I allowed a wife of a co worker to have the controls flying over the Golden Bay Bridge and she was thrilled. She went from fear of airplanes to wanting to learn to fly. Her husband and their small kids were in back. She amazed me at how she caught on so fast. She was in control up north to past San Rafael then over the hills to the Concord area thence south to the fremont area then closer to Hayward Airport, I resumed total control. She was a pleasant surprise. A school teacher no less.
     
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    Why ask me Max when you reeled off some of the reasons to defeat Diversion? So now I just claim? Well, insofar as I do accept Jesus the savior and my church contains the name Jesus in our name, etc, sure I am a Christian.
     
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    Some people have "air sense", some do not. Some give into their fears and that affects their ability to learn and function. Some are brave and open to new experiences.
     
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    That money does not belong to the political class Max. Do you believe in the lesson gained from Davy Crockett?

     
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    To prove a point. Many people who claim to be Christians are only part-time Christians, meaning they aren't Christians at all. Being a Christian is a full time devotion. Bill Clinton claimed to be a Christian, but he wasn't. Sinning all week and repenting on Sunday isn't what it's all about. Saying "I love Christ" then hating others isn't what Christianity is all about. It's about walking in the path of Christ. People, like Bill Clinton, who hide behind the excuse of "the flesh is weak" or some other lameass excuse for their hatefulness towards others are not Christians. They're just acting like Christians. I expect because they are weak, spineless people who are only trying to do what is expected of them but are too cowardly to tell others they don't believe.
     
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    Excellent example! Thank you, Robert, for proving ours is a secular nation, not a "Christian" nation as some have tried to assert. I agree 100%. It's not the place of the US government to be a charity or act as the world's policeman. The role of the Federal government is clearly laid out in the Constitution and that doesn't include telling people how to live their lives, who they can marry or what they can do with themselves or between consenting adults.
     
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    Definitely I am up to your challenge.

    I want to offer a woman to you. She was raised as a Muslim. She long believed in Sharia and in Islam and the teachings.

    While she may not teach you, at least see what she tells you.

     
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    Because I expect this nations laws be followed, it means i am not a Christian? What about your lesson told by David Crockett? Do we believe in the constitution or not?

    My bases in political issues is not related to my being in the Church.

    Christ also said to pay to Government up to 10 percent. I think that might be worth doing.

    Cities declare who are citizens, counties do and so do states. For the country to declare who a citizen is is a matter of law.
     
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    Yet you lectured me about being a good Christian. I have no clue why you do not see this as a Christian nation, since the founders were quite clear that they did. Do you understand how the founders pressed into church duty our government buildings at one time?

    Marriage is not contained in the Federal constitution. Is it found in states though? Therein lies the powers of states. States are also government. States carry out executions and have supreme courts. Matter of fact the Feds duty is to support states, and not the other way around.

    If you find the term consenting adults in the constitution, by all means let me read that part.

    What is your view of consenting children?
     
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    It doesn't work out that way.
     
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    Let's get the opinion of the Democrats.

    Say you own your home. And you did not recall to lock your doors. And you wake up and have many strangers sleeping all over your place.

    Democrats?? Do you great them as valued guests? Do you dial 911? Do you sue for unlawful homesteading in your home? Do you seek rent from them?

    What action do you take. Apply this to our nations borders.

    Darned little of the border land belongs to the Feds. When illegals invade this nation, they do so on neighbors lands. And the neighbors desire this government provide them protection. So do you agree with the land owners?
     
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    Sure, we should expect them to learn English.
    Love? Seems an odd way of putting it.
    Sometimes people become hostile after they've been here for a time.
     
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    Heh, OK
     
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    Evidence, please.
     
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    Look at Canada.
     

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