The Stumbling, Bumbling, One-Term Presidency of Barack Hussein Obama

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  1. James Cessna

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    Once again, you are very mistaken.

    By the way, this review was very good.

    "First Obama foolishly pushed heath care reform over getting millions of Americans back to work. Now he is paying a very heavy price. And now we are informed his health care bill will cost taxpayers twice as much as they were originally told!

    His heath care bill is so poorly crafted it will soon be declared null and void by the U.S. Supreme Court. He promised to bring the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan. And how he is foolishly sending U.S. Special Forces troops to Uganda.

    And then he made things even worse in the U.S. economy with his trillion-dollar bailout that was a total waste of money and a total flop. Obama laughingly admitted the "shovel ready" jobs he promised up never really existed. Yeah, Mr. President, the "joke" was on us.

    Will "amateur hour" in the Obama White House ever end?

    "The most amusing amateurish move came just last week. With Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. about to be subpoenaed by a House committee, the administration announced in a flourish that it had thwarted a major terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Iran, Mr. Holder said, planned to kill the Saudi Arabian ambassador at a Washington restaurant, using an Iranian-American used-car salesman as its primary agent. Even the New York Times said
     
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    That's a lie. Other than a half dozen or so long overdue executive orders, the stimulus bill was the first order of business. The wailing and stalling of screw-America Republicans dragged passage out for severeal weeks longer than necessary, so some sidework on the Lily Ledbetter pay equity act and getting a few million more kids access to health care was accomplished. Work on HCR did not begin until March and did not begin in earnest until May. Republicans walked out on that effort in July. In between there were major tobacco and credit card reform bills.

    That's a lie. HHS has said it will not continue efforts to develop a long-term care plan. That plan would have provided about half of the first ten-year DEFICIT REDUCTION originally projected by CBO.

    Go ahead and bet the rent on it. If you have any of it left after betting that gay rights and affirmative action were going to be struck down.

    When are the last troops set to leave Iraq? When did the first troops leave Afghanistan? Do you even know???

    Hmmm, a hundred advisers. To help wipe out the last bastions of the LRA and assure that Commander Kory either dies in some vain struggle or is captured and turned over to the ICC, thus ending a quarter century of his brutal actions in many nations. Uganda has many people with the African Union doing good work against old al Qaeda allies in Somalia. Helping them mop up at home lets them keep up their good work there. And you were saying how foolish this is?

    What "trillion dollar bailout" are you stumbling over yourself in trying to talk about? Not that it matters. All of the initiatives taken by this administraion have together succeeded both in halting the domestic economic freefall that was inherited in January 2009 and in warding off the global depression that loomed as the result of Bush's grand malfeasance. Your analysis of whatever it was you thought you were analyzing was total made-up bunk.

    That's a lie. He said he had learned that "shovel-ready" didn't mean as shovel-ready as he thought. Those projects of course had been gathered from mayors and county leaders and governors of both parties from all over the country beginning in September 2008. And whatever Obama thought, more than 90,000 of them have been funded by ARRA, no doubt including some in your neck of the woods. Those were your neighbors who got paid and your neighborhood economy that benefitted from it.

    Better that we would see the end of amateur nine months at Political Forum.

    LOL. You even stumble at copy-and-paste. And of course and as you don't seem to realize, conservative-types have been urging a forceful response to what you and your doltish house churl somehow deem to be an amateurish move. You don't seem able to keep your positions straight.
     
  3. James Cessna

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    "No really, I love listening to you."
     
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    Yes, the Misery Index is much greater under Barack Obama and is the highest it has been since Jimmy Carter!
     
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    Given the antics and lack of purpose of the "Occupy Wall Street" crowd, I would say most of these kids represent a lost generation!
     
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    You are very correct, Radio Refugee.

    Some people absolutely have no shame!
     
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    Wow!

    Darckriver, your descriptions are very accurate and to the point!

    "A black leftist ideologue, a Pelosi-Reid-crazy Congress, and a mesmerized media: The contemptible nature of this trinity of deceit and debauchery!"

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    You are correct, Yosh Shmenge.

    If people today would stay in school, get a good education and work hard every day, they too would become very successful. But too many people today would rather take the "easy" way out, and then they "moan and groan" and complain because other people, the "wealth creators", who have worked hard all their lives, have so much more than they do! These people have no one to blame for their misfortunes but themselves.

    It is a well established fact Republicans and Libertarians want to “lift” the human spirit. Liberals just want to tax the wealthy and give other people a free government handout! This policy only keeps these people beaten down and despondent because they know they are parasites and leeches who have produced nothing and contribute nothing at all to the rest of society.

    Sad. ... Very Sad.
     
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    They become Republicans and watch FOX News all day?

    I personally happen to have multiple millions of dollars worth of assets lying around, and I am just one of a large and always growing group of wealthy people whom you would define as "liberal". Today's best-equipped young people do not have time for your stunted, narrow views. They value honesty, energy, and diversity, along with the special things from parks and well-lighted bike trails to the arts and culture that the right-wing either despises or for other reasons refuses to invest in. The new millionaires are not Republicans. And neither are as many of the old ones as you blindly wish to believe.
     
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    :puke:Well I think we know he is so full of (*)(*)(*)(*) he is passed bounceing stage. Im sure he will have to be rolled out.
     
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    Come now, 17th.

    You do not have multiple millions of dollars worth of assets lying around.

    If fact, we can tell from your politics you are on government assistance!

    Beside, people who truly have wealth keep the information to themselves and do not boast about it.

    It is the “hucksters” and “shysters” and "con-artists" who try to convince people they have wealth when really they don't!

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    :puke:The only running he will be doing in 2012 is a new place to live. That is if anyone will accept him.
     
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    Obama can always move to Bolivia or Venezuela and enjoy the socialist life there!

    But of course as one of the new “1%ers” he will have to give up some of his fortunes!

    As a good socialist, he can use his vast fortunes to build new schools, new parks and new hospitals in Caracas. This way they will be enjoyed by the "proletariat " whom he lovers and adores so much!

    Ha-Ha!
     
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    The second most terrifying aspect of socialists is revisionism; which is the backbone of social engineering. Your post is right out of Brave New World and Orwell's 1984.

    The real Jimmy Carter? You mean the guy who spent hours revising the tennis court schedule while Americans were captive and being tortured in Tehran? The guy who approved the most catastrophic energy policy in history? The guy who turned an incompetent Zbignew Brizinski lose to turn America's friends into enemies? [Hell, even Canada hated the guy.]

    Your version of Jimmy Carter neglects the fact that he spent months deregulating the beer industry while the economy tanked, inflation skyrocketed and the USSR invaded Afghanistan. Your guy took on the oil crisis by lowering the thermostats in the White House and wearing a sweater And it was your Jimmy Carter who was the first to negate states rights and create an expensive and needless federal department of education, the beginning of the end of the American public education system.

    Or do you mean the Jimmy Carter who alienated congress, especially fellow Democrats by accusing them of being in the control of special interests? The guy who drove his base, college students and youth into the arms of Ronald Reagan.

    That "island of economic sanity"included the first steps toward the derivative crisis that brought down Wall Street three years ago. That "island of economic sanity" created the worst inflation spiral in the country's history and gave birth to the concept of "stagflation" a never-before-experienced economic crisis. It was because of him and his incompetence that the term "misery index" was created.

    Jimmy Carter was driven from office with a 34% approval rating, one of the worst in history.

    I concede that since leaving office he has proven to be an excellent statesman; a better man that he was president...but to claim he presided over an "island of economic sanity" is an outright lie.
     
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    FearandLoathing, this discussion is excellent!

    It is the best review of the Carter administration I have ever read.

    One of the things I remember most about Carter as president was when he was in a fishing boat and became scared out of his skin and almost passed out when he thought he encountered an "attack" rabbit!

    Yes, this is a true story!



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    I frighten you, don't I. A wealthy person ridiculing the insipid arguments you attempt to make on behalf of wealthy people. Enjoy the trembling.

    I am neither boasting of my wealth nor trying to cover it up. I am using myself as the example that I set of the sheer stupidy of contnual claims that those you call "liberal" are destitute leeches dependent upon othes for their very survival. If I had wanted to dangle my wealth in your face, I might have told any number of stories over what we can do that you can't. But that hasn't been my purpose. Simply exposing your two-bit phoniness and general hypocrisy is all I seek.

    Sounds like a feeble attempt to create a Catch-22-based security blanket argument in your own head. Something to cling to as you huddle in fear in some dark corner? As was noted above, new breed millionaires will not brook the anti-social extremism of right-wingers. They made their money by doing everything you despise. They will break no political bread with you. You may as well face up to the fact that you are being mothballed and left in already distant dust. And quite properly so.
     
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    I agree with James.

    You don't have a pot to (*)(*)(*)(*) in that wasn't given to you by the government.
     
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    You are correct, Mac-7.

    It is obvious from his politics, 17th is one of thoese people who is all "hat" and no "cattle"!

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    :puke:Better be careful fellas. You never know. Remember Ubama has a computer too. It just might be him. That is if Ubama knows how to turn one on of course.
     
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    You need to read more history and fewer right-wing "opinion" journals. The "Misery Index" was popularized (and a "pop" term is all that it is...it has no signficance in actual economics) by Arthur Okun in the mid-1960's. The term "stagflation" meanwhile dates from less than successful attempts by Nixon and Ford to deal with the effects of the 1973-74 oil crisis. Meanwhile, GDP increased and unemployment decreased sharply over Carter's first three years, being undone at all only when the outside shock of the 1979-80 oil crisis intervened.

    Speaking of which, Carter's energy policy was the first and (Henry Waxman's efforts notwithstanding) so far only attempt to develop a coherent national energy policy. The so-called "malaise" speech was in fact received with an overwhelmingly positive response. Sadly, proceeding a few days later with a significant cabinet shake-up left Carter open to charges of being weak and indecisive, which put a big dent in people's confidence in him to lead the moral equivalent of war that he had called for. Nevertheless, the much-needed pieces were being pulled together until Ronald "Trees Cause More Pollution Than Cars" Reagan came along with his Morning in America, real men don't eat quiche plan called Burn All You Want, We'll Find More Somewhere. One day you could call up Sears and have them come over and install a solar hot water system on your roof for a five-year net cash outlay of $0. The next day when you called, the line had been disconnected. Reagan had killed the tax breaks, and an entire emerging industry with them. We haven't recovered from that. Under wiser leadership, we could have avoided many if not all of the energy-related problems we have had to struggle with since. In energy terms, we are worse off today than we were in 1980.

    "Friends" became enemies when the US abandoned Afghanistan after the Soviets wtihdrew, and when the US abandoned Iraq after the First Gulf War, leaving opponents of Saddam to be mowed down in reprisal (thus creating all those mass graves) after the US told them to stand up and join in the fight to oust him. The scale of the resulting humanitarian crisis was what prompted the hasty imposition of the (illegal) No-Fly zones to protect the Shia in the south and the Kurds in the north from further slaughter. Do you know which President was in office when these events transpired?

    The Iranian Revolution was meanwhile under no one's control. The embassy hostages were taken by groups who had originally thought to occupy the Soviet embassy. Khomeini was at first embarassed by these events, but in his sharp political mind, he soon found ways to use the hostages as a lever in consolidating his fragile revolutionary government against the meddling efforts of moderates. Carter, in addition to approving the rescue mission that he knew was a long shot to start out with, negotiated multiple settlement agreements with the Iranian government, but each one was shot down by Khomeini who had not yet run out of uses for the hostages. It was in fact frustration with the second such renegging that led to use of the military option. The final framework for the release was actually set by September. But the Iranians then hemmed and hawed over absurd valuations of assets seized in 1979 by the US and to be returned under the agreement. This was nothing but Khomeini seeking to strike back at Carter personally for his lack of support in general and for his humanitarian treatment of the hated Shah in particular.

    Yoiur further tin-foil hat references to such as CRA (I presume) and to creation of the Department of Education (which was formerly a part of HEW) are too silly to go into. Unless you insist upon being embarrassed over them as well.
     
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    LOL! I bet it is!

    No, it's not. Carter was fishing in a pond near Plains, GA when an agitated swamp rabbit approached his boat. He splashed water at it to convince it to swim off. It did. Here is a link to a picture of that very event. The swamp rabbit is at the upper right.

    Carter Discourages Swamp Rabbit
     
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    I'm sure you do. Which leaves my federal income tax bill still being in six figuires. Filed a 6251 lately, big boy? (Go ahead...look it up)...
     
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    It very surprising how many millionaires and billionaires find time to post on this board.

    You would seem to be only one of many IF we believe everything we read on the Internet.
     
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    I am also surprised!

    If we knew the truth, we would not be at all surprised.

    The liberals in this group love to exaggerate when it comes to Obama's accomplishments and their net worth.
     
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