The Trump Search Warrant

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you realize the classified documents are not just laying around the White House and the NARA knew exactly where those documents were at all times? Are you saying NARA lost track of the classified documents?
     
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    You have distinguished yourself as someone who is quick to criticize others as being bigoted and biased. Now, you reinforce your prejudiced criticisms by bragging (actually BRAGGING) that you will accuse a person of being a criminal -- and without citing any reason WHY you do so. Thank you, then, for making it so clear to the rest of us just exactly how your mind works... and it is highly unlikely that anyone here wants to "stop" you from continuing to reveal yourself for what you are.... :dog:
     
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    You are falling for a false narrative that will put corrupt republicans in power, like Trump. He has lost a good portion of the conservative vote for good reason. The physics of his criminal activities going through their natural course wont bring them back.
    The only thing worse then voting democrat is not being wealthy and voting republican. Dragging down the rest of the country into poverty like the red states so corporate entities can keep more of the pie is not a good idea.

    Bottom line, if you are struggling in this economy where there is too much money, what chance are you going to have when the republicans bring the real recession. They will abolish min wage, overtime, and bring state government regulated body autonomy.
    People were all bent out of shape about high gas prices, when it was just the global market just doing its thing. Whats the plan to make stuff cheaper, for the "poor Americans" force people to make less for their product and labor through government intervention?

    But you know all of this already and continue to vote against your best interests. You wont go union, you will continue to hope for cheap stuff, and we will just wait and see if a majority of the work force in this country is naive enough to put republicans back in power. If they do, get ready for the real pain of a real recession to set in. That crap wasn't fun when Bush did it back in the day. Expensive gas, no jobs, low wages, and corporate bailouts.
     
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    You continue to ignore the government's corruption, as long as it serves your politics.
     
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    thanks for your support.
     
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    https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1045/espionage-act-of-1917
    There's that little matter of proving "intent". At anytime did a foreign agent visit Trump at Mar-a-Lago to copy the "classified" documents or are there records of them being electronically transmitted? Unfortunately the Democrats won't be able to extract Trump's thoughts to prove "intent". Especially since there are clear records of him cooperating with NARA and the FBI.
     
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    Do you have a statute or federal regulation that proves what you say? I doubt it.
     
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    Im not trying to convince anyone.

    Just stating fact.
     
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    This is false. The president has the inherent ability to declassify documents on his own. The president doesn't need an OK or fill out a form.
     
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    If you claim it to be a fact you should at least cite the relevant rule or law.

    Many lawyers on the tube are saying POTUS is the sole authority to declassify, and I suspect they are right.

    Just as he is sole authority for pardons and commutations as mentioned in the US Constitution, he is also sole authority regarding our classification system which came about long after the Constitution was written.
     
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    Not sure why some are being so stubborn about acknowledging that Trump was subpoenaed for records this past June.
    Again, this begs the question as to why they didn't take ALL the records in June? :confusion:

    Trump served subpoena at Mar-a-Lago home 2 months before FBI search (msn.com)

     
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    Another thing some are being very stubborn about acknowledging.
    PolitiFact | Does the president have 'the ability to …
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    Risch said, "The minute the president speaks about it to someone, he has the ability to declassify anything at any time without any process."
     
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    Yes, the president can declassify almost anything he wants.

    There is still a process that information must go through to have its classification level changed.

    Nothing anyone on TV says changes any of that.
     
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    There is no process for the POTUS.
     
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    Trumps not the POTUS.
     
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    You may have missed the point.
    Trump and those close to him said Trump had declassified all documents before they were removed from the WH. He was still president at the time of declassification.

    Again, this begs the question. When Trump completely complied with the FBI's June subpoena, why didn't the visitors to Mar-A-Lago, one higher up official and three FBI agents remove any questionable highly sensitive documents then?
    There subsequently would have been no need to tell him to lock up the documents if they removed the alleged sensitive material during their June visit.
     
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    Fake media narrative. After over 20,000 criminal claims against Trump you have ZERO indictments meaning you are more consumed by media than you are actual facts.


    I missed the part where Trump had historical high inflation, historical high gas prices, historical high food prices, and historical high illegal crossings.
    Again, you are so blinded by left wing media you have no actual situational awareness.

    More proof you lack any situational awareness. What the hell do you think is going on right now.

    Fake media claims of something that has never happened. More proof you are consumed by fake media
    narratives

    Yet another fake narrative from the bubble in which you live. The global market wouldn't effect the US being energy independent and controlling their own energy cost.
    But you have been hypnotized into believing we were never energy independent as your leftist media decided to change the definition of what that means so you would have another regurgitation to share. What they can't erase is what they reported 4 years ago.

    If what you say is true and we can't control our own gas prices, then you can explain why gas in Kuwait is $1.30, Qatar is $2.18, and Russia is $2.90
    You have been duped into yet another fake narrative to try and cover up how bad Democrats have destroyed this economy and you will buy into anything they tell you even when YOU are living in an economy that is the exact opposite.

    More media fantasy claims. You are currently living in a recesson, you are currently living in historically high inflation. You have chosen not to wake up from your Democrat coma but 78% of Americans have. You are one of the left over 15%ers who are so blinded by leftist fake media, you can't see anything other than what you are told.

    Are you the only person left on the planet that doesn't know CNN and MSNBC have lost over 86% of their viewership over these fake claims?
    Are you the only person left on the planet that doesn't know the fake soviet style committee hearings cost the broadcasters over 60% of their viewership while airing it?
    Are you the only person left on the planet that doesn't know Biden has the lowest approval rate in history
    Are you the only person left on the planet that doesn't know 55% of Democrats in Florida support DeSantis
    Are you the only person left on the planet that doesn't know companies like Disney have lost billions in stock value over their idiotic Democrat wokeness
    Are you the only person left on the planet that doesn't know Biden is installing an additional 87,000 IRS agents to browbeat Americans into paying for his policies because not even the government can.

    What will be your excuse be after midterms which according to every odds brokers is going to be a bloodbath. 77% of democrat staffers are making the very same claim.
    Will you be back here claiming the Russians did it? Election fraud?

    Are you the only person left on the planet that doesn't know 76% of Americans agree this country is headed in the wrong direction?

    All you ever have is bought and sold media propaganda. You can't back up a single statement with actual data. Which is the reason you elect to write these scripts instead of trying to dispute what I post. Because you can't dispute what I post.

    Wake up
     
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    No, it begs the question, why didn't Trump properly declassify materials during the transfer of power?
     
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    If that was true, there would be a record of the info being declassified.

    It’s basic stuff.

    It’s a terrible attempt at an excuse.
     
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    Okay, you're going around in circles now. Trump said he did classify all documents before leaving office. You need to refute his statement and stop inventing strawman fails.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    I don't even have cable, and only listen to talk radio for my news going to work and back home...So there goes that narrative.
    These are my own opinions based on anecdotes..So I may be the only person who is outside that box.
     
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    You'll have to prove there was no record of Trump declassifying what he took from the WH.
    Let's assume Trump declassified everything before he left office. Isn't the burden on the government to prove that he didn't?
     
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    Guess you missed the properly part, cause if he did, this wouldn't be happening.
     
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    I don’t have to prove anything.
     
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    If you have no interest in backing up your claims, what do you want from me?

    Never mind.
    Have a nice day.
     
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