The Truth About Race and Intelligence

I do not care who claims to "debunk" The Bell Curve. Explain in your own words why the assertions of Professor Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray are mistaken.

I have explained why they are not mistaken. First, no method has been developed to significantly and permanently raise the intelligence of a child who at the age of seven scores poorly on an IQ test,

Second, by every objective, measurable criterion Negroes tend to be considerably less intelligent than whites. No method of closing the race gap has worked.

 

There are blacks in Sweden. The Negro race continues to exist as a race. By the way, Negroes in Sweden have a higher crime rate than whites in Sweden.

 

Why is that? Explain.

 

Mate not bowing to Brandolinis law - I have already provided multiple links



If you want to continue this debate then prove that his premise has been supported by, well, basically anyone in academia in the last oh! Ten years or so

 

No there is no such thing as “race”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_...netic variation,genetic code with one another.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8604262/

 

Linda Susanne Gottfredson (née Howarth; born 1947) is an American psychologist and writer. She is professor emeritus of educational psychology at the University of Delaware and co-director of the Delaware-Johns Hopkins Project for the Study of Intelligence and Society. She is best known for writing the 1994 letter "Mainstream Science on Intelligence", which was published in the Wall Street Journal in defense of Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray's controversial book The Bell Curve (1994).

She is on the boards of the International Society for the Study of Individual Differences, the International Society for Intelligence Research, and the editorial boards of the academic journals Intelligence, Learning and Individual Differences, and Society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Gottfredson

The reason many college professors do not defend The Bell Curve is because it is dangerous to do so. Suppressing unpopular but fact based and rational opinions is unworthy of the scientific method.

By every objective, measurable criterion blacks bend to be significantly less intelligent than whites and East Asians. They are also more prone toward crime and illegitimacy.

Because these average racial differences have legitimate political implications there should be no taboos and sanctions against pointing them out.

 

"The Inequality Taboo," By Charles Murray, Commentary,
September 01, 2005

The Harvard geneticist Richard Lewontin originated the idea of race as a social construct in 1972, arguing that the genetic differences across races were so trivial that no scientist working exclusively with genetic data would sort people into blacks, whites, or Asians. In his words, “racial classification is now seen to be of virtually no genetic or taxonomic significance.”[25]

Lewontin’s position, which quickly became a tenet of political correctness, carried with it a potential means of being falsified. If he was correct, then a statistical analysis of genetic markers would not produce clusters corresponding to common racial labels.

In the last few years, that test has become feasible, and now we know that Lewontin was wrong.[26] Several analyses have confirmed the genetic reality of group identities going under the label of race or ethnicity.[27] In the most recent, published this year, all but five of the 3,636 subjects fell into the cluster of genetic markers corresponding to their self-identified ethnic group.[28] When a statistical procedure, blind to physical characteristics and working exclusively with genetic information, classifies 99.9 percent of the individuals in a large sample in the same way they classify themselves, it is hard to argue that race is imaginary.

https://www.aei.org/articles/the-inequality-taboo/

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The experiment mentioned by Charles Murray is a good one because it is double blind, and it can be - and has been - reproduced, giving the same results.

Putting this in my own words, I will say that a person's race - or racial mixture - can usually be determined by appearance, and always by DNA analysis.

Now, once we acknowledge the scientific validity of race it becomes legitimate to acknowledge durable racial differences, particularly in average intelligence, but also in rates of illegitimacy and crime.

Once we acknowledge those differences it becomes legitimate to investigate genetic reasons for them, reasons that can be explained by different evolutionary pressures in different environments for thousands of years.

 

Why will I be better off by stating what is obviously untrue?

 

Are there any comparable studies that include the Asian 'races'? I say this because IQ tests show that they have a 5 point advantage over the white 'races'. Would you be just as keen to promote Asian superiority as white superiority?

 

The Negro race evolved south of the Sahara Desert.

Whites and East Asians evolved in cold climates and in civilizations. Cold climates select genetically for intelligence and monogamy. Civilizations select genetically for intelligence and obedience to the law.

 

East Asians score better on the average than whites in the ACT and the SAT.

http://www.blackexcel.org/06-sat-act-scores-by-race-ethnicity.htm

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RACE, EVOLUTION AND BEHAVIOR: A Life History Perspective
2nd Special Abridged Edition
by Professor J. Philippe Rushton
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario, Canada N6A 5C2

Modern science shows a three-way pattern of race differences in both physical traits and behavior. On average, Orientals are slower to mature, less fertile, less sexually active, less aggressive, and have larger brains and higher IQ scores...

IQ tests measure intelligence and predict real life success. The races differ in brain size and on IQ tests. On average Orientals have the largest brains and highest IQs.

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

 

More civilized, then.

 

I am a white Gentile. I have never known an East Asian (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese) I did not like. I have known white Gentiles I hated.

Jared Taylor calls himself a white advocate. He has sometimes been called a white supremacist. This is what he has said about East Asians:When he Writes "Asians" he means "East Asians," which I also call "Orienals."

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Asians have faced fierce discrimination in America, but this has not stopped them from working hard and getting ahead.In fact, they have been so successful in "racist" America that whites have even begun to complain about Asian achievement.

Whether one looks at Japanese and Chinese, who have been in America for generations, or Koreans and Vietnamese, who have arrived more recently, Asians have been remarkably successful...

The achievements of more recent Asian immigrants have been well publicized. Everyone has heard of Vietnamese children who came to America unable to speak English and then, a few yearslater, graduated at the tops of their high-school classes...

Throughout this period of constant prejudice and persecution, Chinese worked hard, saved their money, and built better lives for themselves. By the time they had full, legal standing in this country, many Chinese had incomes comparable to those of native-born whites.

By 1969, Chinese as a group outearned Italian, German, and even Anglo-Saxon Americans.

During the 1960s, Chinatown was the part of San Francisco with the most unemployment and poverty, the highest rate of tuberculosis, the least education, and the most substandard housing. Nevertheless, in 1965, only five people of Chinese ancestry went to jail in the whole state of California.

- Jared Taylor, Paved with Good Intentions

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Wherever you look, Asians outperform whites academically and financially...

we have a considerably less than one standard deviation difference between Asian IQ — North Asian IQ — and white IQ. I think that, too, is a result of genetics, and I think that that is what explains the dominance of Asians in certain fields, and their lower rates of illegitimacy compared to whites, their lower crime rates, their better achievement in school, their higher average incomes...

I think Asians are objectively superior to whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society.

- Jared Taylor conversation with Professor Arthur Jensen

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When I consider the superior average performance and behavior of Orientals I lose patience with those who blame black social pathology on whites. It is not our fault that Negroes have high rates of poverty and incarceration. It is not our fault that by every objective, measurable criterion black tend to be considerably less intelligent than whites and even less intelligent than Orientals. It is not our fault that Negroes have high rates of crime and illegitimacy.

 

lols! Seems the “Prefer not to respond are as “smart” as the Asian group! lols!

 

Yep! Definitely “your fault”. Have you ever heard of “self fulfilling prophesy”

 

How are whites responsible for low average black intelligence and high black rates of crime and illegitimacy?

 

Because this fallacy of “low black intelligence” is the basis of a self fulfilling prophesy

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/t...elf-fulfilling-prophecies-study-finds/2017/10

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_... is no evidence for,explain the racial IQ gap.

Ewwwww! But the hideous and prejudiced view of “race” makes me feel like I have to not just bathe but scrub my skin to remove the stench!

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/02/the-unwelcome-revival-of-race-science

Steve Bannon - loathsome dickless twit that he is, but he has a loud mouth and people often listen to the “emptiest vessel makes most noise”